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From: S J Hill <amtsjh@amsta.leeds.ac.uk>
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hi

Kev is right:

> Uh Oh. Following Steve's comments, I can feel the floodgates opening.
> 
> Simon will be suggesting we have the regionals a couple of months before the
> finals. Patch doesn't see why we should be so centered around University
> teams, Toby and Bud don't have a problem with November, Kevin wants the
> school teams considered, etc etc etc. 
> 
> Please, if you are interested in these discussions, come and join the
> formatting and guidelines group (See Scott's email). It may be fascinating
> to us, but I'm sure most of Britdisc don't want to return from a couple of
> days away from their computer to find hundreds of messages. Thank God this
> isn't taking place on Eurodisc, otherwise we'd have been flamed to hell by now.


I have a "britdisc"-type address that we can use for this if there are more people
interested.  (I set it up for students last year - but with BritDisc there is no longer
any need.)

If you would like to see/join the discussion that Kev expects to errupt from the
above then send me a mail... with

TOURNEY_GUIDELINES in the subject and the body - you know - so its clear!

Then I will (manually) add you to list and it will all be much easier for all
concerned.

It won't be switched on for a day or so - so go on - flood my spool with
requests to join....
If you have already mailed Scott - don't bother - he can fwd your address to 
me... (Scott?)

--------------

In response to Laurence's report: 

> As nobody else seems to be bothered ...

Rich will (I'm sure) be doing this soon - he is a busy chap.
Chris (Burden): that will also cover the full results - sorry
about the delay.

> On Sunday we had much more fun.  The rain came down but at least the 
> wind abated.  We had 3 awesome, close games- firstly against Phat'Eds 
> 2 who came back from a 7-1 deficit at 1/2 time to just miss out and 
> lose 9-7, then against Disciples which was standing at 11-11 with cap 
> at 12, when we won the final desparate point, to set up a spoon final 
> against Jesters in which we were 7-1 down at half time but gave them 
> a better game in the 2nd half but still lost 9-6.

Did you have more fun because more games were against teams against
which you were more closely matched?  Or was it *only* the weather?

> One point raised during play on Sunday- how's about a Finals 
> tournament for those teams who didn't qualify for the Hitchin final.  

If anyone would like to do this please do!
Seriously though - it has been thought of, and if possible there
may come a time when a non-finals tourney can go ahead at same venue
as finals so as to increase spectators for finals AND give all those 
other teams another tourney.  

> It's getting to the stage where we're playing the same old teams all 
> the time and never getting to meet any of the southern teams, in fact 
> I don't think I've ever played against half the teams from the SE- 
> and withthe student make-up of our team meaning we're generally weak 
> over summer and autumn, I don't think we ever will.

This however, I do not accept.  F6 rarely practice outside ; and didn't
enter many (any?) of this year's outdoor tourneys... its not easy to get
student teams together - but its not impossible.  Many teams have done it!
If you don't go to the tourneys - how do expect to meet these teams?
(I'll probably get horribly flamed for saying this - but I don't give a shit
cos its true.)

> On a similar divisive theme I, overheard at the w/e a mention of a
> summer league next year featuring an elite top 8 teams.  Can anyone
> fill me in on this because it seems to have been kept strangely
> silent to the so-called lesser teams who won't be involved- and I
> personally might have something to say on the subject.

This is about the Ranking Tour that I alluded to in that email to
Dave.  It is NOT a league for elite top 8 teams.  The reason it has
been kept "strangely silent" is so that the idea gets an opportunity 
to be described in full without alarming (and inaccurate) rumours like this 
frightening people!!!

Anyway, a better explanation will be in the next ultimatum.  I imagine
that you (Laurence) will be emailing me to get involved in the discussion
about tourney guideline so that you can have your say...
I refer you back to the comment above about your team's enjoyment of
Sunday's play compared to Saturday...

cheers

Si