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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:12:36 +0100
From: Raf.Freire@Bristol.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Ultim-8
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Britdiskers,

I'm glad Mark Jefferson has, after much hesitation, decided to inform us about 
how he feels about the Ultim-8. Such criticism are essential in evaluating if 
the ultim-8 is good or bad for british ultimate. I have kept my response as 
brief as possible, which is also with the best intentions so apologies if it 
offends (especially the stuff about money).

Mark believes that the strength of british ultimate lies currently at university 
level. The answer to this is a most definate no. Sure this is where most players 
are, and is how the majority of us find out what ultimate is. But ultimate is a 
team game. To develop a good team takes training, practice and continuity of 
players (i.e. for players to stay with the same team). It is extremelly 
difficult for a student team to have continuity of players, and this is why no 
student team has won nationals in the last 13 years (I don't know before that 
because I wasn't playing). It is no coincidence that the main aim of the ultim-8 
is to develop this continuity of players. The strength of british ultimate 
should not be measured by the number of good players, but by the number of good 
teams.

Mark also objects that the tour does not take into account time constraints of 
students. I can't understand how students can claim to be short of time. I found 
it much easier to attend tournaments when I was a student, and I don't think I 
ever missed more than 1 tournament a year due to exams. Before you think that I 
was a university dosser, I've am now a post-doctoral researcher. Furthermore, 
the rule that you can ditch 1 tour result for your nationals seeding seems to be 
to accomodate students. Anyone care to enlighten me as to how students don't 
have the time to attend 4 out of 5 tour events?. 

OK, so the level of commitment required from your wallet is considerable. I 
agree that money is horrendously short for students, but I don't see a way 
around this. If you want to be a good team you are going to have to play often 
and regularly against equally matched opposition. There are student indoor and 
outdoor nationals, more suited to the student timetable in which students can 
play against similar opposition. There have also been proposals for more 
competition between students (both nationally and internationally). These are 
competitions set up for students which are made as accessible for you as 
possible and should be easier to get funding from the AU. Nonetheless, the tour 
is not more money absorbing than playing in any other system over the summer. Is 
there any way you could sacrifice your 20 pints and 1/8 of hash a week and make 
a few more tournaments?.

In short the ultim-8 requires commitment. The strict rules about transfer of 
players and qualification of national aren't there to make life difficult for 
students. They are there to promote continuity in teams which results in vast 
improvement in the standard of all teams.


Rafi (shotgun)