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From: Mr A J Tucker <esrqr@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: Student Eligibility Rules
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I would like to add my support to Dave Graysons comments regarding his views 
on the new student eligibility rules. He echoes my views on this subject 
entirely.

Unfortunately I was not in the country when the original discussion took 
place, and I fully understand the fact that the current student co-ordinator, 
Simon Weeks, is inheriting a policy which isn't his. For many years the 
student eligibility rules have certainly needed clarification and Dave is 
right to applaud the moves to do this. To me however the new rules step in 
totally the wrong direction. Of special concern, I think, is the one which 
bans experienced student players from student competition. It is both flawed 
in theory and grossly unfair in practice. As Dave states we have to ask what 
the point of student ultimate competition is?

Surely the purpose of having a separate student competition is to determine 
which university or similar institution has the best team, consisting of 
players drawn from that institution. Put simply the Student Nationals should 
be an inter-university tournament. This is the line taken by literally every 
other student sport and the line taken by student sports governing body, BUSA 
(British Universities Sports Association), which we are not yet part of. BUSA's
policy is clear and simple; players have to be registered for full or part-
time study at the relevant institution in order to represent them in student 
sport.

Certainly this is the expectation of Warwick Students' Union who provide, like 
many other unions, the frisbee club with significant financial support. They 
give this money expecting the team to consist of the best players the 
University can produce, to play the best teams from other universities. The 
team is representing Warwick University. They do not give the money for a 
small group of people to have a good time with free trips around the country.

It is important of course that new players have a chance to play in less 
intensive competitions to develop confidence and skills. However there is 
no need to artificially limit the Student Nationals to a beginners tournament. 
There are plenty of separate beginner tournaments already running although 
I'm sure a few more are needed. More importantly, not all students are 
beginners, a situation likely to be even more obvious in the future with 
many great junior players now coming through. It seems to me that a high 
standard of student Ultimate is something to be encouraged, not discouraged. 
It has been shown many times before that infact the top student teams can be 
amongst the best teams in the country in their own right.

To exclude from a team its top few players, which is the situation at Warwick, 
is both unfair on the individual and the rest of the team. It will often be 
the case that the best players will also be the most active in running or 
coaching a club. Can you then turn round and say that those people aren't 
allowed to play in what is the clubs most important tournament, despite their 
total commitment to the team, and their unquestionable status as students at 
the relevant university. It makes a mockery of the whole student champs if 
everyone knows the winners aren't infact the best student side in the country.

The rule states players cannot play in student competition four years after 
they first completed in a student tournament. This is a ridiculously 
inconsistent way of limiting the standard even if this was a desirable aim. 
It means that a highly experienced player can still compete if, for example, 
they missed the students in their first year for some reason. Exchange 
students from abroad or  ex-junior players could have been playing many years 
before playing in their first student tournament. Some experienced players 
will be able to play and others won't. Where is the consistency? How can you 
make a rule like that to be consistent?

The long term aim of Student Ultimate in Britain must be to obtain BUSA 
recognition. It would provide the sport with so many benefits, most important 
of which would be a raised profile and considerable funding and sponsorship 
opportunities. Ultimate would get the recognition it undoubtedly deserves but 
unfortunately doesn't get within so many universities. The setting up of the 
new regional leagues is undoubtably an important step in this direction. 
However BUSA recognition does not stand a chance if the current eligibility 
policy is continued.

The obvious solution is to start using the BUSA rules. That is any registered 
student is allowed to represent their university if deemed good enough. The 
student tournaments are inter-university tournaments. Those players attending 
a university where there is no team cannot play. Of course I have some 
sympathy for them but there are plenty of other tourneys after all, and it 
provides some great incentive to set up a new club. The alternative is that 
the students become just another beginners tourney, where winning isn't 
important and eligibility rules become totally irrelevant.

Im sorry to go on for so long about a subject that will seem irrelevant to so 
many people, but I feel this to be a very important issue and something that 
needs to be re-addressed right away. With student ultimate having been the 
backbone of British ultimate for so long the implications, especially of BUSA 
recognition, infact effect everyone.

Andy Tucker  - Warwick Bears / UTI
andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk