From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 28 11:56:34 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA04460 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:05:46 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04412 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:05:31 GMT From: 9361247@arran.sms.ed.ac.uk Received: from arran.sms.ed.ac.uk (arran.sms.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.5]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24154 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:05:28 GMT Received: from SMS-ARRAN/SpoolDir by arran.sms.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 28 Nov 97 11:05:30 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SMS-ARRAN (Mercury 1.31); 28 Nov 97 11:05:01 +0000 Organization: Student Mail Service To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:03:34 +0000 Subject: Student eligibility X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac (v2.1.2) Message-ID: <37B43737208@arran.sms.ed.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm glad that this discussion has finally begun, as I believe it was a very near-sighted rule to begin with (student players being limited to 4/5 years experience), although done with the best intentions in mind. Si wrote: [At this point you may - or may not - be interested to know that a) a similar rule is used in college ultimate in the States Which I think points out one of the great flaws in the rule. The sheer number of players in Britain is comparatively very small, and as such we should still be on a massive expansion-kick with the sport, and where better to start than at Uni? The idea of encouraging more new players and teams depends crucially on those with experience of playing. After all it is more likely they, if they have moved to a new University for post-graduate study, which does not have a team, to start one. What would then be said to this person, when wanting to compete with his/her new and inexperienced team in a student competition, even though they have become 'too experienced'? My other point is linked with recognition of the sport as a serious one, within Universities. One way to gain more recognition, surely is in the awarding of Colours to players. I know that in Edinburgh Uni, to be eligible, a person must play all first team games for 3 years, which for someone beginning in their first year of a 4 year course, this is very unlikely. Those with more experience would stand a much greater chance of achieving this level of representation. For those reading this, who don't know me, I am a 1st year PhD student in my 4th year of playing Ultimate, so next year if the rule goes ahead, will be ineligible to play Student competitions. Frankly I have felt let down by this rule, as I was wanting to compete and play for my University in all tournaments. Instead, if I want to do that now, I would have to take up another sport, where this rule is not in place. Thanks for hopefully reading, Wee Jim Sneeeky's