From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 23 17:08:02 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id QAA10654 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:48:08 GMT Received: from exchpk01.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk01.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.228]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10639 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:48:04 GMT Received: by exchpk01.chelt.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD567B.636E48A0@exchpk01.chelt.ac.uk>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:47:38 -0000 Message-ID: <c=GB%a=_%p=CHELT%l=PARKLAN/PARKEXCH/0008F527@exchpk01.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> To: Britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Newsletter:............ heads down, icoming Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:39:00 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Cor, if I had realsied that my report was going to cause such a storm..... Thanks to all those that commented on the report. To follow up Roger's comments; >but as Tournament Director (or whatever >grandiose title you lot have) it has to be your responsibility to >organise a report for your tournament. can't argue so far, > By all means get peoples' comments, ask those involved in great >games to write one paragraph on it; But people don't, they won't go off and do anything unless you repetedly hassle them. Take Si's request for people to cover tournaments for the newsletter, Paul Hurt repeatedly asks for people to put article in Ultimatum; response - zip. > but in the end you're the only one >with an overall perspective, scores and a feeling for the whole host of >issues you overcome. But what is wanted by the Ultimate community is >definitely a coherent structured view of what happenned, not some >cobbled together set of other people's comments. Yes it needs some to put it all together, which has to be some one who has the overall picture of the tournament (results), if not what happened in the games. >And it's certainly not Si Hill's responsibility, but yours. Definitely. >Many people all the way >around the world are interested in reports like that (as indicated by >Dave Silbey's recent comment on the Lurkers vs Druids), and It was really just coincedence that most of the games that I felt people wanted know about I was in (Druids losing to Punks, Druids drawing with Lurkers, the final), the others I just heard about. Even games I scored I hardly watched; as those who had to keep shouting for me to put the score up will say. When I'm organising I hardly see anything of a tournament. >Take my advice pal, DELEGATE. OK Rog, I'm delegating. I want YOU to find five people (who will actually do the job) to assist the TD for each tour event in compiling the report after the tournament for publication in 1 week post event. Any volunteers (or even groups from teams) contact Roger Thomson. >while we're >discussing developing the sport - are the Sports Council really going to >recognise a sport that's too lazy to write a 2-sider on major events? >Let alone archive them sensibly; but that's another topic. Let alone go beyond a handful of people who are prepared to put time and effort into moving the sport on. Look at the people who are always pushing development - every time it seems to be the same names. Look at the people organising tournaments; the same names or clubs. So many people come to tournaments and expect the sport and event to be organised for them play, then go home and complain, I agree with Laura - Be Arsed. (BTW: that wasn't a go at you roger :-) ) Chris