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From: Roger Thomson <Roger@kbw.co.uk>
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Subject: Too many Gap clothes and Kickers! Get some camo you lightweights.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:14:33 -0000
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Dear All,

My final words on tournie reports as Ben's flower pot appears close to
bursting:

1) We all agree we need good ones.
2) We agree it takes >1 person.
3) We only need to decide whether it should be an Ultimatum, TD or
BUF-driven job. I don't know who decides, that's officialdom's job and
you lot wear the uniforms. At the moment Si Hill is dealing with it,
cheers Si. As far as I know, things are in such a state at the moment
that we'd struggle to work out who won such and such a tournie two years
ago if we didn't know it was Shotgun. We should be archiving this shit
on the web. You guys want to look back and tell your grandchildren don't
you? 'We came second in this....'. More seriously, it's good for
publicity/recognition/sponsorship/history (when we're the biggest sport
in town rather than the smallest pondlife wearing cleats) etc.

SERIOUS READERS PLEASE LEAVE THIS MAIL NOW.
On a lighter note:

4) Sort it out you load of noncers! 
5) Chris Hughes may think he can delegate to me, but Chris, you delegate
down the food chain, not 400 generations into the future. By the way,
how's your pet sabretooth?
6) Quote Ben Ravilious: "I am grateful to you for the British Open. I am
not *quite* so grateful to Roger who seems to have had an awful lot of
'good ideas' just as I'm in a blind panic trying to get Tour 1
organised! I just don't like being lectured by players who dont *appear*
to do any organising themselves." 	Shit Ben, do you think the best
team in this country runs itself? Well it doesn't. Nor does the Gun
website, the Gun accounts; oh and while my memory's working, Strange
Blue didn't start all by itself either all those years ago while I was
at university. I've brought my quota of good ideas to life, but I'm not
asking for a bucketful of nails and a cross. The trumpet I've got will
work just fine thanks.
7) As for not getting the Indoor Regional Trophy - AND? This morning I
didn't get the mug with the cat's face on it, but my toys are still in
the pram. 

Flame all you like - but didn't your Mum ever tell you: 'don't play with
fire'?

YOU'LL ONLY GET BURNED!

Kind regards,

A de-fingered GUNNER

'He's rude and he knows he is, he's rude......'


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	B. Ravilious [SMTP:br5@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent:	23 March 1998 17:31
> To:	Britdisc
> Subject:	All fur coat and no knickers!
> 
> Well it seems the chattering classes are alive and well!
> 
> Can't acually remember the last Shotgun tournament...
> 
> Paul Hurt, you are a wise old sage. I agree 100% with your
> contribution. I
> dislike being accused of ripping-off teams who come to Leicester
> tournaments. Running a big event is a shit load of work and I
> expect my club to make some money out of it! It was particularly
> galling
> this year for my team to be denied our regional indoor trophy because
> some
> lazy buggers in the SE couldn't be bothered to run their own
> tournament.
> 
> I would say this to the next person who has a "good idea" for the
> sport:
> YOU bring it to life. See what little enthusiasm you get the moment
> the
> pipe dreaming stops and the work begins.
> 
> Ben
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