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To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, amtsjh@amsta.leeds.ac.uk (S J Hill)
Date:          Tue, 19 May 1998 17:33:37 +0000
Subject:       Women's Ultimate in Scotland
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Hello!

Regarding the on-going discussions about women's ultimate we thought 
that we should let people know what we here in Scotland are trying to 
achieve. Our aim is to form a Scottish women's squad bringing together 
players of all standards to train and practice at least once a month. 
This idea has been formulated since the introduction of women's 
tournaments in Britain and the positive experience gained by playing in 
them (Thanks to Sue and Tara).

 The reason's behind the Scottish women's squad are as follows:
- not many of us can afford the time and especially money to travel to 
even the most northerly of GB women's practices.
- to bring together women ultimate players in Scotland to improve our 
game and increase our confidence.
- to prevent new players leaving if they find the mixed game 
intimidating and frustrating.If we want to keep them playing it has to 
be a rewarding experience for them, and women's ultimate improves their 
game and while increasing their confidence so that they contribute far 
more in the mixed game. This can only be good for Ultimate in the 
long-run.

When we first began Sneeeky's womens practices in Edinburgh a year ago 
there were only about 4 of us, but we persevered - and now we have a 
weekly practice which is taken by an experienced women player and 
consists of drills and a 4 or 5 aside game. A Scottish squad seems like 
the next logical step. We are not by any means turning our backs on the 
mixed game - the majority of games we play are mixed but women's 
ultimate has made the this far more enjoyable.   

In terms of tournaments, it will be interesting to see how the women's 
division at tour V goes and what implications it will have for next 
season. In our experience, despite much support and enthusiasm for 
women's tournie's I don't think that we could get together a women's 
squad of Sneeeky's players to many tournaments if a seperate league was 
created. It seems that a possible solution to the problem of getting 
women players into the tour is to take it in stages and make a seperate 
co-ed league to run concurrently with the tour rather that just a 
women's league. This would ensure that those women who wish to take 
their Ultimate to the highest level would have the opportunity. There is 
no doubt that something needs to change - but in these early stages 
seperating the women's game would seem a bit premature. 

Let's encourage women's practices in the universities, enjoy the 
tournaments that already exist for women and concentrate on the seeing 
more co-ed tournaments. Here at Sneeeky's we are discussing plans to 
host a co-ed tournie in 1st term of next year - hope to see you all 
supporting it.

Emma and Mary-Claire (Sneeeky's)