From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 23 21:07:21 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA00629 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:55:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00623 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:55:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from (phidelta.demon.co.uk) [158.152.248.177] by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yoZ9y-0002xw-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:55:19 +0000 Message-ID: <010vVGA8LAk1Ewo+@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:33:16 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Junior Outdoors In-Reply-To: <ADF1AA0E78@digley.shef.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 <pjZRgFWDsQK5ViyP$l4rxVrb6a> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jack of Phat 'Eds wrote: >I never understood why juniors, in particular school teams weren't >allowed to play in Student tournaments. Is this correct? Are/Were Schools actually prohibited from playing in the Student events? Or do they just not attend (for whatever reasons)? I'd have to assume, rightly or wrongly, that such a prohibition was in force so that School Ultimate and Junior Ultimate (where's the boundary?) each concentrates on its own expansion, rather than a slower symbiosis...? >Assuming they can look after themselves and don't chunder everywhere Here's the potential problem - this assumption has often been made incorrectly (e.g. ask Christian Nistri about Utrecht...) and the follow- up is that it's LEGALLY someone else's problem if something does go wrong! >their presence would only make student ultimate stronger, 'would' or 'could'? Trying to be more realistic than pessimistic... ...and then the GB Juniors could be stronger due to having more experienced players to select from, and in time this could filter through to the GB Open team, and eventually to GB Masters AND the general standard of British Ultimate would improve... look at the current Shotgun squad - many of the Regulators contingent started as Juniors in Cambridge, played for GB Juniors, dominant student teams, GB Open and the most dominant club team yet seen in this country... >We should be playing as many teams as possible as often as possible , >encouraging new teams and encouraging the sport to grow not limiting >student ultimate to a select band of 18-25ish year olds. so there so come to Open tournaments! When the available ones get too full we'll have to start more, and when these get too full, we'll be able to seperate the agegroups with more chance of there being enough teams to warrant it! Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk