From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 4 11:29:22 1996 Received: from clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id LAA09409; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:29:18 GMT Received: from thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk by clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id LAA04793; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:29:13 GMT Received: by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA04934; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:18:52 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk by thistle.csv.warwick.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA04667; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:14:10 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:13:45 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk with SMTP id MAA06312; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:13:45 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: <v0153050aae9e371d3876@[137.205.222.1]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mj@glasgow.prestel.co.uk From: D.P.Neilson@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Dave Neilson) Subject: Re: the general nature of whores Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Status: RO [Cc to BD for info] Michael, Since it was my posting that has caused confusion, I will try to explain what I meant ... and didn't mean! There seems to be several types of 'mixed bag' teams that compete in many tournaments both in Britain and the US. Let me try to characterise some of them and then add the labels that I intended: Types of 'mixed bag' teams ========================== A) players (in groups of about five or less) show up at an event with not enough to enter as they stand - this could be because some players had to drop out last minute OR that this band of heroes felt confident of 'picking up' with a team. -> these player either form a PICK-UP team with other floating players or they GUEST for a team that has enough to enter but could use extra legs [I did a lot of this while touring the USA and I have also done this in Britain] B) players live (and so can train) in a certain geographical area -> these are the GEO teams (the name coined by Aram Flores) C) players that used to play together (proabably as a student team which is a special form of GEO team) become dispersed across the country - they hardly ever train (if at all) but they like to get together at tournaments to catch up on news as well as to play together again. -> this is a social or ALUMNI team [the type that I (usually) play for] D) some players have multiple allegiances (maybe as a result of GUESTING or because they have changed location several times) and they like to chop and change which team they play for at any given event - sometimes they don't pre-arrange this [see A above], but many times they do ... -> this might be your typical Ultimate WHORE [I like to do this at times] E) on rare occasions, a group of experiences WHORES might co-ordinate their travel plans to form a special type of PICK-UP team, i.e. one that has been organised enough to pre-register for the event - this is subtlely different from the ALUMNI team and might typically have the ulterior motive of trying to win the event. -> this can be called an ALL-STAR team, but more typically is termed a team of WHORES - this type of team is very rare in Britain, but I believe (and I may be wrong) that such teams occur in the USA. So apart from (E), all of the above types of team and player exist (fairly) happily together here in Britain. The recent discussion that you have happened upon is talking about how we (as a player community) help to shape the future to encourage both quantity and quality to grow in Britain without loss of flexibility and fun. One of the motivating factors is to improve the competitiveness of British club and national teams on the European and World stage. Welcome to Britain and I hope you have some Ultimate fun here - see on the pitch sometime. Cheers, Sam Neilson ============================ Still Aimlessly Meandering Still Thinking About Nothing SUNTANS Veteran