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> From: Iain Roberts 
>
> He also mentioned how Red Shift set up as a 'geo' open team, as a result
> of the current Skunks not practicing as much with Shift, the team looks
> to be disbanded.  This is a shame but it does bring a whole load of very
> good players into the field for other teams to pick up.  Some have ties
> to other teams through guest appearences etc.  Others do not, these
> include the people that have played their last year with Skunks and have
> now graduated.  Players like Squaddie, Andy Vaughn, Neil Gunn etc.  Also
> there will be another group of very good players graduating next year,
> potentialy with no obvious place to go.  Players like Will Parker,
> Sanjay Lutchemiah and Myself.  This is the case for alot of university
> teams, where there is is no obvious team to join,

It would be so much better if players like these, that had the
ability/time/energy to do coaching/run a team, did so instead of signing up
for a team 150 miles away. Players like these could join up with other
graduates in the local area (say 50 miles (i'm sure every graduate could
find someone within that range)) and started their own teams with
friends/workmates etc. I know it might not be everyones cup of
tea/coffee/and to a lesser extent sunny delight but it would help improve
the number of ultimate players in the country and I'm sure some of these
great players could produce geo teams of the same ability as RED and First
Touch.

> then there needs to be
> an effort from the open teams to "spot" (probably the wrong choice of
> word given the discussion) players that have potential from all the
> university sides.

Surely open teams should be trying to find people locally to join their
ranks. Though I suppose you could be right if open teams are pinching
graduates that live in their local area. I don't dislike teams that cream
off the best talent, but I feel that geo teams are more likely to stand the
test of time, and are more attractive to new comers, so I feel there should
be more incouragement of them. In my own mind I can't  think of anything
more satisfiying than raising a team from nothing to be a great team.

    As for the developement of the sport, I understand the problem that Si
Hill was on about. The problem is the sport is 3 tiered, those who are
really competative, those that want to be at the top but also play for fun,
and those that play just for socialising and fun. We need to consider all
parties when trying to advance the sport for all of them. You could split
the tour into divisions, like you have at big events like the worlds eg.
Masters, Open, Co-ed, Juniors, Womens etc. but maybe on a division scale
eg. 1st, 2nd and 3rd divisions, with the possibility of getting relagated
or promoted. I don't have the greatest understanding of the current system
but I know it is a great one and probably involves the kind of ranking
system I just mentioned already, but I think it would not hert if it was
made more obvious/definate eg. 3 groups of 9. I'd like to hear others
opinions on this, but just don't mail me saying the tour is great as it is,
because I know it is, I'm not attacking the tour just thinking of ways to
develope the sport so everyone gets their way. That enough of my babbling
for now i'll leave you all in peace (for the moment),

				Matt Lowe.

Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com