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Well said!! I couldn't agree with you more J, you've just beaten me 
to writing a similar posting.

laters
Norm.

On 8 Oct 98, at 13:30, Jonathan Schofield wrote:

> Jon,
> 
> You wrote,
> 
> "Spirit is something that seems to be lacking in the higher positions:
> spirit changes from being "playing to enjoy the game" to "not getting
> arsey when someone calls a foul on you". "
> 
> and ended your mail,
> 
> "Where is your spirit 'top' teams??????"
> 
> I'm not going to enter in to the whole tour structure argument, but I do
> have to comment on the above. In your mails to date you seem to be
> implying:
> 
> 1) That the top teams are lacking in spirit because they want to impose
> their wishes upon the rest of the Ultimate playing community. To this I
> would point out that there must be somewhere in the region of 100
> individuals playing for the top eight teams, but so far I have only seen
> between 5 and 10 individuals from these teams posting comments on the
> issue of the tour structure ­ PLEASE DON'T assume that these few
> individuals speak for the whole of their teams!
> 
> 2) As I understand it, the core idea of "the Spirit of the Game" is more
> closely expressed in "not getting arsey when someone calls a foul on you",
> as you put it, rather than "playing to enjoy the game". You can, after
> all, play ANY game just for the enjoyment of it. The whole point of "the
> Spirit of the Game" is to play in a sportsmanlike manner - to make
> reasonable infringement calls as defined by the rules, and to respect the
> calls of others when they make them. One of the interesting things that I
> thinOver the years I have heard many people express the opinion that the
> top teams lack Spirit. Your comments so far are somewhat ambiguous on this
> issue - please confirm Jon that you don't subscribe to this opinion as I
> find it objectionable. There are many, many players on the "top teams" who
> I regard not only as good athletes, but also good sportsmen in the heat of
> competition. I was unable to stick around at Nationals to watch the Final,
> but from what I have heard, it was a highly competitive AND very spor
> Jonathan Formerly ShotGONE Now Catch 22