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Subject: Re: mail from space cadet! - womens ultimate
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     Additional tournaments with compulsory mixed squads will help womens 
     ultimate no more than it will help mens ultimate.  
     
     The womens game is different to the mens game and both are different 
     to the mixed game although being based on the same principles.
     
     Both Twin Peaks and Bliss competed well in the tour last season due to 
     the way in which the competition was organised - enabling teams of 
     similar standards to play each other.
     
     It doesn't matter whether they were male, female or mixed teams, we 
     had a lot of close games and both of the women's teams finished at 
     around 20th place in the tour.
     
     Womens ultimate in the UK will only improve if womens teams continue 
     to develop and we continue to put in efforts to hold tournaments for 
     all female teams.   That is not to say we cannot continue to compete 
     in the open tournaments - we're doing ok and just need more teams to 
     follow suit 
       - come on Women in Black, Organics, Mud Culture/Sneeekys/Sconz,      
                0181, any others . . .
     
     
     Love 'n' layouts
     
        Helen


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Subject: Ah, shaddap you bleaters!
Author:  space.cadet@inorbit.com at DTT.UK.INTERNET
Date:    08/10/98 17:21


Optimal league size = 16 teams.  Shut it!
If sufficient teams enter the tour, a secondary league will be in order.  This 
is not likely to be the case until the millenium at least.  
Meanwhile, women's participation is growing, without being catered for in open 
tournaments( it isn't growing fast enough to sustain competitive teams in open 
tournaments, nor quite yet to extend to satifactory women-only events ).  They 
need
 more opportunities to play mixed/female opposition.  Additional tournaments
with compulsory mixed squads ( say 4-5 women per team )would remedy this and 
address the issue of lack of events in the season for less go-for-the-throat, 
more keep
-up-the-spirit type teams.
As someone already pointed out, there are going to be more new student teams 
than ever this year - many consisting almost entirely of freshers, new to the 
sport( and to life, young pups ) - who want to enjoy the "Ultimate Experience" 
( are y
ou experienced? ), not have their noses rubbed in it by this year's fleetingly 
supreme ( and invariably unfriendly & stuck-up - no names ) champions.  
C'mon BritDiskers, the weather alone makes the love of Ultimate a forbidding 
excercise, let's not bog it down with even more of our own personal baggage.
     
     
     
     
The opinions expressed in this transmission were bought off-the-shelf near 
where you live.
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