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Subject: RE:Re: Tour 99
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Jon Good wrote:

>If they want these they can go to bigger tournaments with some European teams
>as, generally speaking, players at these teams have the time and cash to
>go to them.

And we do goto to European tournaments to play at higher levels, but surely you 
don't want us to not play in the tour and only play in foreign tournaments, 
which is an idea i have heard banded around through a couple of 'top' teams.

This is because we definitely do not have more time (work, exams, career, 
family, house etc.), yes we may have more money but most of us work very hard 
long hours for the pleasure.  The time we spend playing Ultimate is crucial time 
and we need to play high standard teams most of that time, else many 
players would stop playing and the standard of Ultimate in the UK would fall 
even further behind that of the rest of the world.

Cue:- 'Huge discussion on how GB teams can do better at World Championships'

Its all about priorities and we seem to have not defined them clear enough, do 
we want to see GB finishing in the 'second' division of World Ultimate or do we 
wish to see us really acheiving what we can.  We do have some really talented 
players in this country, but it seems these never get it together to represent 
GB.  In my opinion it seems that most players are far more committed to playing 
for their club than their country. There is no problem with this as long as it 
is acknowledged.  The Shotgun team of 1997 at WUCC in Vancouver came 18th and 
really made an impression on the World scene.  GB teams consistantly fail to 
achieve what a GB team could.  This needs to be adressed. We all want the 
best players to represent the country but this as has been shown is not always 
possible.  In light of this the current system of choosing the GB team needs 
changing.  We have to find out what is the BUF's prioity, before any submission 
for GB manager/coach etc can be made.

Should we send the Tour Winners/Nationals Winners/Best performing team at the 
WUCC of the previous year/Should it be completely open with fulls trials/Should 
we combine the top 2/3/4/5 etc teams?

Practice is the key, if a GB team can practice frequently and regularly like a 
club side we may be able to achieve more. 

Please lets discuss this, as Rafi said this is very important and you would 
expect more on BD.

Colin.
UTI. 

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