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From: "Flores, Aram" <aflores@lehman.com>
To: "'Rob Mitchell'" <admrwm@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk>, Caedman_Oakley@nai.com,
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Subject: RE: Discussion on World Ultimate
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A Message from ShotGone

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rob Mitchell [SMTP:admrwm@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk]
> 
> As for Colin's proposal, which I note has shifted slightly in emphasis
> from
> 'Let's send our National Champions' to 'Let's send either our National
> Champions
> or the Tour Champions'; welcome back to the bad old days. One team
> (National
> Champions) goes to represent GB every year, thus hogging all the
> experience for
> themselves and therefore impoverishing other teams, before coming back and
> kicking UTI's arse all over the field. Players who want to play at a
> higher
> level then have to join Catch 22 and that's that, British Ultimate up
> Shotgun
> Creek without a paddle once more.
> 
> cheers guys
> 
> Rob 
> Chevron Action Flash
> 
I am not normally a contributor to BD, but seeing my retired (sadly) team
incorrectly maligned has sparked me into action.

In the 7 years I have been here neither Hombres or Shotgun represented "GB"
at Worlds.  In fact, we only had one full time member of our team in the GB
management structure during that time (and only for about a year).  In
addition, some people would argue that Shotgun players did not play a big
enough part in the GB team (either as players or "management"), but that is
a whole different discussion.

While we did manage to gain a lot of international experience, it was
because we went to tournaments out of the country (SHOCK) as a club team!  

Also in our own (admittedly non-conformist) way we did contribute to the
development of British Ultimate.  Just look at the number of players on
Catch and UTI that either practised or played regularly with Shotgun last
year. 

Now, I am not a supporter of sending the National Champs to Worlds, I do
think players need to practise more regularly if the GB squad is going to
succeed.  I can assure you that all the major club teams in the US train at
least 4 days a week in the run up to Nationals, something even Shotgun never
came close to.

Aram - ShotGone