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From: David Trovell <david.trovell@bmpoptimum.co.uk>
To: "'Ben Ravilious'" <Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk>,
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Subject: RE: GB teams
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:04:00 +0100
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OK, I'll kick it off.
I think this needs to be said in public as so many people have mentioned it
privately both this year and last.
I don't think that GB benefited from having a player-coach. In order to get
the best from the squad, a coach/manager and a separate player-captain may
be a better idea.
I think that both Simon and Harry did a good job, but at times it is too
much to ask people who are playing to make all the subbing and tactical
decisions.
Two examples spring to mind;
1) final game 1998. Certain players only playing 2 or 3 points per half when
they were fresh and on form (Duncan and Richie) whilst others were playing
on empty.
2) GB vs Sweden 1997. With both coaches and the 'best 7' on for 5 or 6
crucial points in a row, there was no-one to say "hey, this is working - try
something else"
I don't mean to put noses out of joint with this but so many people have
mentioned it to me and one or two have even dropped out of GB because of
this issue.
So, nominations please for
1) GB Manager (non-playing)
2) GB Captain
both of which should be involved in coaching responsibilities and team
selection.
Let's hear some other views.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Ravilious [SMTP:Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk]
> Sent: 13 October 1998 11:41
> To: 'Britdisc'
> Subject: GB teams
>
> [BR] Glad you started this topic Colin. Its crying out for a really huge
> discussion.
>
> As was stated at the recent EGM, both the womens and open coach positions
> are up for grabs. As you will have read, the women will be having a
> discussion about this next weekend at the nationals.
>
> I have heard rumours/ideas floating around about changing the whole way we
> pick our national teams. Could I ask that now would be a good time for
> people to air these suggestions.
>
> In both Womens & Open divisions there seems to be a certain amount of
> secrecy regarding peoples opinions on the National Teams (perhaps because
> people don't want to jeopardise they're chances of selection?!). Could I
> suggest that open and frank discussion is miles better than plotting some
> sort of Coup D'etat! I think our current coaches ego's are big enough to
> take criticism - if that is what you have for them.
>
> A very valid point which Colin made is that the role of the coachs might
> need to change if the selection process were to alter. Point taken Colin!
>
> So... let the people speak....
>
> Ben
> BUF Secretary
> GB Open Team No-hoper
>
>
> Cue:- 'Huge discussion on how GB teams can do better at World
> Championships'
>
> Its all about priorities and we seem to have not defined them clear
> enough, do
> we want to see GB finishing in the 'second' division of World Ultimate or
> do we
> wish to see us really acheiving what we can. We do have some really
> talented
> players in this country, but it seems these never get it together to
> represent
> GB. In my opinion it seems that most players are far more committed to
> playing
> for their club than their country. There is no problem with this as long
> as it
> is acknowledged. The Shotgun team of 1997 at WUCC in Vancouver came 18th
> and
> really made an impression on the World scene. GB teams consistantly fail
> to
> achieve what a GB team could. This needs to be adressed. We all want the
> best players to represent the country but this as has been shown is not
> always
> possible. In light of this the current system of choosing the GB team
> needs
> changing. We have to find out what is the BUF's prioity, before any
> submission
> for GB manager/coach etc can be made.
>
> Should we send the Tour Winners/Nationals Winners/Best performing team at
> the
> WUCC of the previous year/Should it be completely open with fulls
> trials/Should
> we combine the top 2/3/4/5 etc teams?
>
> Practice is the key, if a GB team can practice frequently and regularly
> like a
> club side we may be able to achieve more.
>
> Please lets discuss this, as Rafi said this is very important and you
> would
> expect more on BD.
>
> Colin.
> UTI.
>
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