From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 16 15:30:10 1998 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA05799 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:14:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from otto.crispgroup.co.uk (crispgroup.demon.co.uk [158.152.87.155]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05737 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:14:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.1.1.241] by otto.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.aia2) with ESMTP id sa028852 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:09:44 +0100 Received: from [129.1.12.27] by homer.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0012/1.aia2) with ESMTP id la032433 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:07:56 +0100 Received: by raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BDF918.40F0DBE0@raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:18:40 +0100 Message-ID: <01BDF918.40F0DBE0@raviben810.crispgroup.co.uk> From: Ben Ravilious <Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk> To: BritDisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Discussion on World Ultimate Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:18:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Info: Crisp Computing Mail Server Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA05778 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [BR] Harry (and others), -----Original Message----- From: Harry Golby [SMTP:hgolby@pers.cmht.nwest.nhs.uk] Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 1:19 PM To: BritDisc Cc: Alison Hill Subject: Re: Discussion on World Ultimate [BR] <BIG SNIP> So what's the alternative. Well as I reported at the BUF AGM (which wasn't minuted by the man who started this debate off by asking for opinions.) [BR] Harry, you're refering to me but I didn't take the minutes at the AGM! You were reading the EGM minutes. Your apology has already been accepted ;-) [BR] It may have appeared from my desire to start this debate on Britdisc that I am unhappy with the way the GB Open is managed. Let me now state for the record that is not the case (I have not expressed my opinions on the matter FWIW). As the positions are now up for grabs, I have a responsibilty to publicise this as Secretary. It IS however apparent that some of the senior players are not happy with some things. Rather than the usual round of backstabbing I felt it would be better to try to talk about this stuff openly. Got a problem? I *have* had a couple of critics of my EGM minuting In my defense I can ask only that your bear with me as its my first time and also accept that noone else wanted to stand for the secretary position which, second only to the GB manager it seems, is the worst job in the world! In other words: Critics, help or shut up. Anyone who fancies the job as GB manager need to bear in mind that you'll become as bitter as I appear to be on reading what I've just written. [BR] People should try to remember that our whole sport is run by volunteers. Any effort anyone puts in is a bonus. That dedicated people like Harry should become dissolutioned is a bloody disgrace. Harry, all I can say is ignore the bullshit and stick with it. At the end of the day this is just an Internet discussion group. Everybody pontificates at the top of their voice. What matters is what actually gets done. Experience knows best. To be honest, there has been very little direct criticism of the current GB regime. Most of the chatter has been about how we select the team and is only as important as the coach wants to make it. As no-one has come forward it would seem, as per the BUF constitution, that people are happy with the status quo and that therefore the current people remain. End of issue (?) Gotta go...gotta do something I'm being PAYED to do.... Ben