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From: Ben Ravilious <Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk>
To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Indoor injurys
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:42:18 -0000
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Having once watched a junior player jointly flattened by Hwo 'Slam in the Lamb' Lam, and Jeff Bale from Red during a layout, I can quite understand some players wanting to take up a less dangerous disc sport (eg Tiddlywinks).

On a more serious note there are techniques for making lay-outs much safer (eg landing on your front not your shoulder and yes, avoiding walls). There was a good article about this in issue 1 of World Ultimate Magazine (I think). I wonder if the article is also public domain anywhere on the internet???

Then there's proper warm-ups too......

Ben Ravilious
RED - but not yet dead.


-----Original Message-----
From:	David Trovell [SMTP:david.trovell@bmpoptimum.co.uk]
Sent:	Wednesday, November 18, 1998 4:47 PM
To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject:	RE: Indoor injurys

What's going on!
Have we bred a bunch of mincers to carry on the future of Ultimate!
Laying out indoors hurts
Laying out outdoors hurts
GET USED TO IT

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Flowers never bend with the rainfall.
> [SMTP:B.J.Silcock@Bradford.ac.uk]
> Sent:	18 November 1998 15:23
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Indoor injurys
> 
> 
> Just a quick note about indoor ultimate.
> 
> Although I agree that Indoors is essential to the teaching of ultimate and
> it is alot of fun (If you like that sort of thing). If you take the lay
> out out of Ultimate, is it still ultimate?? To me, Indoors is fun, but I
> learned along time ago not to lay out on a concreate floor or near a wall.
> 
> So There is my point - I don't think the rules of ultimate translate as
> well as they could do to the indoor game. To make indoors safer the layout
> needs to be looked down apon, mabe even put somone in the sin bin for
> doing a big one. Everybody with a bit of experience can do a little slide
> on their arse, but it takes time to learn how to do it safely.
> 
> but if Indoors it taught without the layout, when people go from being
> indoors to outdoors they will get confused about what sort of disc they
> can make a bid on or not!
> 
> Therefore Indoors should be more widly seen as a different sport, that
> needs different skills and its own governing body!
> 
> Ben
> 
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