From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Sat Nov 21 23:57:35 1998
Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03925
	for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:42:34 GMT
Received: from Aqualisa.co.uk (host1.aqualisa.u-net.com [195.102.126.130] (may be forged))
	by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA03913
	for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:42:31 GMT
Received: from notes ([195.102.126.130]) by Aqualisa.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1  (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 802566C3.00821B90; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:41:07 +0000
Envelope-to: Colin.Mountford@Aqualisa.co.uk
Delivery-date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:33:32 +0000
Received: from (pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk) [137.205.192.19] 
	by mserv1a.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2)
	id 0zhMWx-0004pk-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:33:31 +0000
Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA29764
	for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:52:16 GMT
Received: from Aqualisa.co.uk (host1.aqualisa.u-net.com [195.102.126.130] (may be forged))
	by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA29755
	for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:52:13 GMT
Received: from notes ([195.102.126.130]) by Aqualisa.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1  (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 802566C3.007D8737; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:51:06 +0000
Received: from (pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk) [137.205.192.19] 
	by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2)
	id 0zhLh1-00049v-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:39:51 +0000
Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24583
	for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:52:25 GMT
Received: from Aqualisa.co.uk (host1.aqualisa.u-net.com [195.102.126.130] (may be forged))
	by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA24574
	for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:52:23 GMT
Received: from notes ([195.102.126.130]) by Aqualisa.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1  (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 802566C3.007808C7; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:51:05 +0000
Received: from (pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk) [137.205.192.19] 
	by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2)
	id 0zhKsO-0001Xv-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:47:32 +0000
Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA20487
	for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:02:38 GMT
Received: from Aqualisa.co.uk (host1.aqualisa.u-net.com [195.102.126.130] (may be forged))
	by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA20473
	for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:02:36 GMT
Received: from notes ([195.102.126.130]) by Aqualisa.co.uk (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1  (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 802566C3.0073748C; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:01:04 +0000
Received: from (pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk) [137.205.192.19] 
	by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2)
	id 0zhK1A-0006oG-00; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:52:32 +0000
Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA14806
	for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:02:53 GMT
Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41])
	by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14795
	for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:02:51 GMT
Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk)
	by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.053 #1)
	id 0zhJF3-0000kP-00
	for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:02:50 +0000
Message-ID: <S0Y2VFALtxV2Ew5M@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:58:03 +0000
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
From: Wayne Retter <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BUSA
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.91.981121131849.24221D-100000@teachserv>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 <pjZRgFWDsQK5ViyP$l4rxVrb6a>
Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
Precedence: bulk

Phil, and others

A long time ago, I was a student type and tried what you're suggesting.
Back then the seperate Uni and Poly sytems were beginning their
combination and BUSA was just off the drawing board.

The basic rejection was due to 'not enough interest'. This conclusion
was formed on the results of a questionnaire sent to all (BSSF, ie Unis,
I think) member establishments and having only X% return the
questionnaire, of which only Y% actually had a team established and Z%
were interested in hearing more. X, Y and Z were deemed insignificant
numbers at the time.

Part of my reason for approaching BSSF at the time was that if we could
get the 'student' part of Ultimate recognised, events like the Student
Regionals/Nationals and further things like Student Leagues would have
the additional site/administration resources and maybe funding and seem
more 'serious'. The other part was that if we could go to the Sports
Council and say "the students are taken seriously" we might have an
extra foot on the ladder.

I'd suggest that you contact the necessary BUF personnel (Student
Coordinator [Dave Barnard], BUF Secretary [Ben Ravillious - a man who
must have inherited lots of informative files], Publicity Officer [Jon
Hope], and maybe Dave 'Sammy' Neilson and Ian 'Scott' Scotland) to get
as much background and progress detail as possible.

All the best

Wayne 

Phil Cooper <Philip.Cooper@teaching.earth.ox.ac.uk> writes
>OK let's open yet another can of worms on Britdisc but this one's mainly 
>for you student types out there:

----------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne Retter
at home: 0181-663-4856                wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk
 mobile: 07970-903420
at work: 01737-273611             wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk