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From: "J.Chewins" <bgy6jgc@SOUTH-02.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK>
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For those of you who were unaware, at the Student Nationals the
members of each of the teams present went out for a meal to discuss
the present and future state of student Ultimate. Here are the
minutes of this meeting:
Chairperson: Chris Hughes
Students are the grassroots of Ultimate. We need to improve the
contacts within the student community. This can be achieved by
keeping better membership lists of players who regularly play and
also to keep track of players once they have left the institution.
1) Ro Sham Bo statement. This statement comprised of an objection to
the misunderstanding of the rules of the student tournament in
respects to the eligability of players from first and second teams.
It was decided that the misunderstanding was due to a lack of
awareness of the actual rules. Therefore next year, when the student
co ordinator receives the list of contact addresses for each team, he
or she will send out a full list of student eligability rules so that
there can be no confusion.
2) BUSA. This discussion was ended before it began. We do not have
sports council recognition. We are therfore not eligable for BUSA.
3) Student leagues. It was decided that student leagues are an
excellent way forward and will raise the profile of the game within
University sports unions. The Scottish league is up and running and
shows that it can be done. The league games should take place on
Wednesday afternoons. The leagues will be split into the same regions
as for the Indoor, except Scotland will remain as it own league and
Leeds, York, etc will be integrated into a new northern division.
Student regional co ordinators will be incharge of setting up and
running these leagues. These co ordinators will be voted for at the
student outdoors (see other business)
4) Outdoors. It was suggested that the student outdoors is not big
enough to cater for the growing number of student ultimate teams.
Nothing was actually decided but the idea of having North and South
qualifying outdoor tournaments as a way forward to make sure all
teams had chance to get to the Finals, seemed to be encouraged.
5) Grants. Assisting student teams in an informative capacity to help
maximise the money they get from their University. It was shown that
each University is funded in a different way and so therefore each
University Union has its own methods for applying for extra money.
The way forward is for members of the team to get into positions of
responsibility so that they ahve the say on who gets what within
their University. Get as many people asa possible into positions of
influence.
6)Freshers Bazzars. Players going to other Universities to help
recruit players in to that University team. It is down to an
individuals own willingness to go and help out at another University.
Students have money and time constraints and therefore cannot be
expected to go great distances. Social events are the way forward.
Freshers want friends, and socials are a way to introduce them to a
new group of freinds aswell as a new sport. Teams need to develop
training schedules, so that they can divide the massive influx of new
players at the start of term into groups of ability and therfore
hopefully keep more of the players interested. The development
schedule would allow teams to see how well players are developing and
what drills/ teaching methods should be applicable to that stage of
their Ultimate development.
7) Coaching Initiatives. Different Universities provide money money
for funding coaching. Each University must be treated as an
individual case. No real decisions or applicable points were made.
8) Womens Ultimate. Each club needs to have an individual dedicated
to the improvement of womens Ultimate. Clubs should be thinking of
holding some seperate womens practices and also try to organise
womens student Ultimate. Womens Ultimate needs to have a practice in
each region, not just London. This is a matter for the whole Ultimate
community not just students. Students need to hold more Co ed
tournaments. At present their are no co ed student tournaments.
Womens Ultimate is prevalent in the South East region and is starting
to come on in the North, their needs to be a big push from other
regions.
9) Other Business.
a) Discussion on whether students should only be allowed to play for
the University they attend, this will give them incentive to set up
their own University team. An example are the people of Sheffield
Hallam playing for Sheffield University. This is legal in the rules
of Ultimate, but gives Sheffield University a player base twice the
size of other Universities. The Open University will be an exception.
No decisions reached.
b) A meeting of teams should occur annually at the Student outdoors.
More teams attend and it will give people a chance to put their views
across and get new club captains intorduced to each other. Here
regional co ordinators for the following year will be voted for.
c) It appears that a seperate student body of Ultimate seems to be
forming. Would it be a possibility to have a seperate britdisc type
mailing list for students. It would need someone who is prepared to
set up and run this. Si Weeks has offered to put together a list of e
mail contacts that he will send out to Univerities. Rachel Jacobs has
offered to create a web site for student Ultimate.
d) We need to ensure better continuation once students ahve left
University. This includes keeping players playing and also making
sure the following University team is succesful.
e) The point was raised about changing the BUF from a federation to
an association. This is not just a student matter and so therfore was
not discussed
We then went to the Dry Dock for more beers.
Chewy