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From: "Matthew Lowe" <Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com>
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Subject: Re: Minutes of Student Meeting
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:04:17 -0000
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I am currently studying at college and will hopefully be attending Leeds
Met. next year. The suggested rule change would not allow me to play for
Jedi. As far as I understand there is no team or any players at Leeds Met.
So the local Uni. team would be Jedi. With a rule change like this I would
have to make my own team at Leeds Met. which is not a simple task for one
person. I would I be able to train 25 new players. I am a great believer of
developing ultimate but without the help of others it would be very
difficult for one person to set up a team, and they should not be deprived
of the chance to play at student level because there Uni. has no team. Maybe
such a rule could be used if local students could help smaller Universities.
Matt Lowe.
Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com
-----Original Message-----
From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk <p.m.connor@open.ac.uk>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Date: 01 March 1999 18:51
Subject: Re: Minutes of Student Meeting
> 9) Other Business.
>
> a) Discussion on whether students should only be allowed to play for
> the University they attend, this will give them incentive to set up
> their own University team. An example are the people of Sheffield
> Hallam playing for Sheffield University. This is legal in the rules
> of Ultimate, but gives Sheffield University a player base twice the
> size of other Universities. The Open University will be an exception.
> No decisions reached.
Apologies to those on britdisc with no interest in student matters
but I'd like to pick up on this point from the student meeting.
While I appreciate the exception madefor us few full timers of the
OU the point I was trying to make at the meeting was that there
are any number of FE and HE institutions that have a much lower
number of students and thus have a much smaller base from which
to recruit players than the big universities such as Sheffield or
Leeds. Cranfield University(Alien Nation) for example struggles to
field a team from a the 1000 students studying there, despite the
serious effort put in by Aaron Altman. Student teams have recently
begun to emerge from these smaller institutes thanks to the efforts
of some experienced players, for example Terrace Army at Bedford
or Cupid Stunts at Grantham but while these presently seem to
enjoy relatively high player attendances this may not always be the
case and it seems to me to be an unnecessary imposition in the
rules to prevent small teams from joining with others where the
alternative may well be not to be able to play at all.
If I remember correctly I think it was Si Weeks who suggested that
the existence of such a rule would be good for ultimate in that it
would force players at universities without teams to build one of
their own in order to be able to play at student level. While
encouraging the growth of the sport is a worthy end I think the
problem with this is twofold, firstly not everyone is cut out for the
administration and hassle that it requires, and secondly, and I think
more importantly, that the rules governing the sport should be best
designed to encourage the greatest opportunity to actually get out
and play, they should not exist to tell people what they should be
doing with their time off the ultimate pitch.
Well done if you've bothered to get this far,
Pete
Alien Nation/Mad Kows