From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 2 20:43:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA15423 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:42:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15418 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:42:03 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA16949 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:42:02 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-060.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.60]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA02100 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:39:53 GMT Message-ID: <00c201be64ed$32102c20$3ca492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" <bravil@webleicester.co.uk> To: <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Minutes of Student Meeting Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:28:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sounds like you guys did good. On the subject of point (d) and also your opening paragraph, I hope I will be able to offer some progress in keeping in touch with students more effectively. Its fairly obvious that a lot of student players graduate and then just 'dissappear'. It would be madness not to try and capitalise on university recruitment like this. As you may know one of my plans which Scott is trying to realise is a proper on-line address book which individuals as well as teams can use to stay in touch. I think it would be a great resource to be able to contact anyone in any area. Clearly there are privacy and maintenance issues with this but I think these can be overcome. My hope is that a website visitor will be able to type in their postcode and get a list of the nearest teams and players. Imagine how this might help the formation of new teams. In the future this could also become the basis of a proper membership database too. Apologies that I didn't make it to your meeting - there weren't suitable trains. Keep it going. Ben BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: J.Chewins <bgy6jgc@SOUTH-02.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK> To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: 01 March 1999 18:01 Subject: Minutes of Student Meeting For those of you who were unaware, at the Student Nationals the members of each of the teams present went out for a meal to discuss the present and future state of student Ultimate. Here are the minutes of this meeting: Chairperson: Chris Hughes Students are the grassroots of Ultimate. We need to improve the contacts within the student community. This can be achieved by keeping better membership lists of players who regularly play and also to keep track of players once they have left the institution. 1) Ro Sham Bo statement. This statement comprised of an objection to the misunderstanding of the rules of the student tournament in respects to the eligability of players from first and second teams. It was decided that the misunderstanding was due to a lack of awareness of the actual rules. Therefore next year, when the student co ordinator receives the list of contact addresses for each team, he or she will send out a full list of student eligability rules so that there can be no confusion. 2) BUSA. This discussion was ended before it began. We do not have sports council recognition. We are therfore not eligable for BUSA. 3) Student leagues. It was decided that student leagues are an excellent way forward and will raise the profile of the game within University sports unions. The Scottish league is up and running and shows that it can be done. The league games should take place on Wednesday afternoons. The leagues will be split into the same regions as for the Indoor, except Scotland will remain as it own league and Leeds, York, etc will be integrated into a new northern division. Student regional co ordinators will be incharge of setting up and running these leagues. These co ordinators will be voted for at the student outdoors (see other business) 4) Outdoors. It was suggested that the student outdoors is not big enough to cater for the growing number of student ultimate teams. Nothing was actually decided but the idea of having North and South qualifying outdoor tournaments as a way forward to make sure all teams had chance to get to the Finals, seemed to be encouraged. 5) Grants. Assisting student teams in an informative capacity to help maximise the money they get from their University. It was shown that each University is funded in a different way and so therefore each University Union has its own methods for applying for extra money. The way forward is for members of the team to get into positions of responsibility so that they ahve the say on who gets what within their University. Get as many people asa possible into positions of influence. 6)Freshers Bazzars. Players going to other Universities to help recruit players in to that University team. It is down to an individuals own willingness to go and help out at another University. Students have money and time constraints and therefore cannot be expected to go great distances. Social events are the way forward. Freshers want friends, and socials are a way to introduce them to a new group of freinds aswell as a new sport. Teams need to develop training schedules, so that they can divide the massive influx of new players at the start of term into groups of ability and therfore hopefully keep more of the players interested. The development schedule would allow teams to see how well players are developing and what drills/ teaching methods should be applicable to that stage of their Ultimate development. 7) Coaching Initiatives. Different Universities provide money money for funding coaching. Each University must be treated as an individual case. No real decisions or applicable points were made. 8) Womens Ultimate. Each club needs to have an individual dedicated to the improvement of womens Ultimate. Clubs should be thinking of holding some seperate womens practices and also try to organise womens student Ultimate. Womens Ultimate needs to have a practice in each region, not just London. This is a matter for the whole Ultimate community not just students. Students need to hold more Co ed tournaments. At present their are no co ed student tournaments. Womens Ultimate is prevalent in the South East region and is starting to come on in the North, their needs to be a big push from other regions. 9) Other Business. a) Discussion on whether students should only be allowed to play for the University they attend, this will give them incentive to set up their own University team. An example are the people of Sheffield Hallam playing for Sheffield University. This is legal in the rules of Ultimate, but gives Sheffield University a player base twice the size of other Universities. The Open University will be an exception. No decisions reached. b) A meeting of teams should occur annually at the Student outdoors. More teams attend and it will give people a chance to put their views across and get new club captains intorduced to each other. Here regional co ordinators for the following year will be voted for. c) It appears that a seperate student body of Ultimate seems to be forming. Would it be a possibility to have a seperate britdisc type mailing list for students. It would need someone who is prepared to set up and run this. Si Weeks has offered to put together a list of e mail contacts that he will send out to Univerities. Rachel Jacobs has offered to create a web site for student Ultimate. d) We need to ensure better continuation once students ahve left University. This includes keeping players playing and also making sure the following University team is succesful. e) The point was raised about changing the BUF from a federation to an association. This is not just a student matter and so therfore was not discussed We then went to the Dry Dock for more beers. Chewy