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From: "David Grayson" <david@mcg.gla.ac.uk>
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Just to agree with Mark.  Last year at least three teams at nationals 
were seriously affected by not being able to promote B team players 
to cover injuries etc.  I believe this devalued the quality of 
nationals as clubs playerd ironman instead of having a B team player 
as a sub.  In most sport you can refuel at a pit stop.  

Should 2 teams from one club qualify then they can be treated as 
separate and not permit switching between teams.

The other (slightly more radical) alternative would be to consider 
Nationals as a competition between the top 24 clubs in GB.  Therefore 
don't allow second teams to qualify.  Seems to me this takes away a 
lot of the incentive for certain second teams to play hard at 
regionals however so I wouldn't be in favour of it.

Having said all that - rules were set a few weeks ago and regionals 
teams will have been picked on the basis of those rules so perhaps we 
should be discussing a change for next year?

Dave.
Mud Culture.

> From:          M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk
> To:            britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:       Regional Rosters
> Date:          Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:39 -0000 

> This was originally going just to you Chris, but as your server keeps
> returning my messages it looks like fate wanted this as an open
> discussion.....
> 
> We all understand - I think - why teams should be required to roster their
> regional entries.  I won't bore you by repeating the arguments.  I agree
> with them.  But there are situations where the rules - designed to promote
> and protect a level playing field for all teams - disadvantage some teams -
> particularly students.  Strange Blue (I hope you don't mind me speaking
> about this Dora) have worked really hard to put a second team together for
> the regionals.  It is a specifically student-related issue that this second
> team (or third, or fourth) will consist of freshers, beginners etc who do
> not get as many opportunities to compete.  In fielding multiple teams clubs
> may be stretching their human resources to the point where, if a first team
> player is injured, there is no one left to replace them.  So what should
> they do?  Only take one team, to guarantee replacements if needed, or take
> the second team, knowing that if the firsts qualify but suffer injury they
> may have to give up their space at the nationals?
> 
> There is no easy solution.  As you have pointed out, Chris, by allowing
> players to switch teams you run the risk of large clubs attempting to flood
> the Nationals.  But I do think we should think about this seriously.  One
> suggestion - by no means fool-proof - is to allow teams a designated number
> of nominated reserves - one or two players who must be with that club, who
> are allowed to play in the regionals with one team but then take up their
> reserve place in the Nationals if required.  This will probably only help
> student clubs anyway - there are very few non student clubs who put in
> multiple teams - and by limiting the number of reserves you largely prevent
> a team from amassing hundreds of pick-ups for the finals.
> 
> I'm always far too enthusiastic, and I'm sure a hundred people will tell me
> why this can't work.  But discuss it quickly and sensibly and see if we
> can't reach some sort of solution for teams like Strange Blue - it is in our
> sport's best interests to help, rather than discourage, teams after all.
> 
> Thanks for reading this far.....
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> Whiplash
>