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Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures
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The problem with making comparisons with other sports is this. Manchester
UTD are a big team and have sponsorship but are not affected by such team
names as "Flaming Arseholes". This is because "Flaming Arseholes" are
unheard of and teams like them represent a very small percentage of the
millions of football teams worldwide. The majority of football teams that
play have names like United, Albion, Wanderers and the like.
  When possible sponsores look at ultimate they see a lot higher percentage
of the teams with drug related names. This is to do with the size of
ultimate, so what may seem like a small group of people to another sport is
actually a fair quantity of ours.
  Many people have said if teams want sponsorship then another teams name
will not affect that decision, but with ultimate at the stage that it is
sponsors do not look at selling the teams but the sport. Teams don't contain
big names like Beckham or Owen, so the image of the sport is what they use
instead. Any connection between ultimate and drugs will slow the growth of
the game.

                            Matt Lowe

Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Salt <simon.salt@company-net.co.uk>
To: 'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Date: 27 May 1999 14:19
Subject: Drugs and draconian measures


>Just to chip in and offer an opinion, why do we have a problem of names and
>their associated meanings?
>If people want to play Ultimate seriously and attract serious sponsorship
to
>their game then fine they should ensure that their behaviour and their team
>names are suitable for general consumption by the "General" populace.
>However, for those that want to play the game for the sense of fun and good
>spirit at a local/regional level and not in the public eye, then let them
be
>called whatever they want.
>After all Manchester Utd aren't going to be chastised by the media because
>there happens to be a Sunday league team called the "Flaming Arseholes" or
>whatever.
>People have to decide at what level they want to play and then take the
>consequences of playing at that level, just as other sports people do.
>
>Simon
>Sneeekys