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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:57:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Association Budget
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Wayne and others
The BUF records are not currently with the BUF Treasurer (me) so
unfortunately I cannot comment further on the historic costs of doing this
work. In terms of going forward the main cost would be wages to the
administrator, and the role has yet to be completely defined so we can only
make assumptions on the cost. (Ben, I'm sure the Inland Revenue will be
interested in taking its pound of flesh and we need to ensure we comply.)
It is true that we used to have an administrator and the arrangement worked
because the majority of the BUF committee lived reasonably close together,
I believe with the administrator being married to the previous Treasurer.
One of the main thrusts of reorganising the BUF is to make it a more
professionally run organisation and to do that we need to get the
structure, responsibilities, people and internal communications right.
Ian Stebbing
BUF Treasurer
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Ben Ravilious <bravil@webleicester.co.uk> writes
>We have to add the costs of a part-time admin plus other admin costs
>(=A37000?). I am praying that the taxman isn't going to demand a cut o=
f the
>salary.
Don't the BUF treasury records hold more accurate details of the admin
costs? Reimbursements for phone calls, photocopying, postage, etc, cos=
t
of development programs, etc...
Are you're "back of a fag packet" figures based on these, suitably
projected/adjusted/rounded?
Very vague memories, but - didn't the BUF have a part-time/volunteer
administrator for a time?
What's the story here? Since the post doesn't _seem_ to exist any more,=
I assume that there were reasons for the trial to terminate... what wer=
e
those reasons, and what were the lessons learned?
Will a _part-time_ administrator cover the job sufficiently?
This will obviously depend upon the responsibilities of the post - are
there yet any propositions as to what they would be (or, for that
matter, currently ARE)
I'm assuming that the association would be really looking for someone
who will spend X regular planned hours per week administering the BUA
(is/was this the proposed name? I'm assuming that this is still open to=
negotiation too, though someone got to BUPA before us...) rather than
trying to squeeze them in around their other job(s)? Or not? dependent=
upon responsibilities, the time demand could fluctuate.
>From the current setup, there just aren't enough hours in the day for
our volunteer committees to do a normal days work, AND do their BUF
stuff. Obviously this is a scenario to be fixed/avoided. If there aren'=
t
more volunteers, the obvious option is a salaried administrator.
Anyone got any input on the way other countries do things? Various
Swedish CLUBS have employed administrators, the UPA has salaried staff.=
I'm not suggesting that these organisations should be idols, but aspect=
s
should be used for role modelling.
>For more accurate numbers I think we should look at Tour/Indoor Nation=
als
>attendance, thus:-
>
>40 Tour teams x 11 players (average) =3D 440 players
Can we not be more accurate in our estimations? Most Tour teams are
ROSTERED, and have handed in their rosters. The unrostered teams could=
be persuaded to jot down some kind of team list (so far, the core of
such teams hasn't changed dramatically, has it?)
There's nearly a census here...
(How do we guarantee that a proper census gets to everybody? I guess
that all those that care and can be bothered will find out, but...)
OK, some clubs have rostered their 'infrequent appearances' as well as
their 'core players', but one could assume (damn, the inaccuracy strike=
s
back!) that these 'infrequents' would subscribe to the association in
order to be kept up to date - e.g. I don't remember seeing many Lurkers=
at Tour Events this year, yet, but they're planning to host their own
tournament...
Wayne Retter
PS: In June 1993 Sean Young conducted a survey at the Samurai (now
Headrush) Fiesta, and produced some demographic figures about UK
Ultimate, based upon the results.
His data sample wasn't huge (just the players, of the 16 teams at the
event, that could be bothered to complete and return the survey.) and
therefore those figures may be _slightly_ biased, for various reasons,
but they're interesting enough to make it worthwhile re-running the
survey.
Anyone have any good ideas on:
a) how to get the survey to everyone (if we could do this, we could
conduct a census!);
b) provide the incentives for:
(i) people to complete the survey;
(ii) the answers to be serious;
(iii) the answers to be returned!
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