From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 12:59:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20142 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20134 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16099 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-006.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.6]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09733 for <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009d01bef928$df699800$06a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" <red@ultimateweb.co.uk> To: "'Britdisc'" <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Nationals Fees Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:56:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin, If you want to make the Nationals an event you need an audience. When I submitted the bid I was asked to try and accommodate a lower, less ‘serious’ division to achieve this. These non-top 16 teams aren’t going to pay £100 for a smaller tournament. YOU would have had to have paid £100 whatever. I will admit some regret that the main tournament fee has to be this much. We had a sponsor all lined up but they’ve been procrastinating big time so I had to charge the full amount in the first instance. You can expect a refund if they stump up some cash. Profits? I should be so lucky! I will publish any profits made if it makes you happy. The lower placed teams are not going to get nearly as much pitch time as the top 16. They’re also not going to get extra frills such as game discs. Fair? I think so. As for your clamoring about the Worlds Tune Up – I suggest you take a leaf out of the Druids book and A) get a firm “Yes we’re coming” from interested teams (show us the email!) and B) get their money, before you schedule your event. Beats relying on charity mate ;-) Trust me, it will all seem worth it when a sideline full of UTI supporters is cheering you on in the final! Catch you later Ben -----Original Message----- From: Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] <Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com> To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' <red@ultimateweb.co.uk> Cc: 'Britdisc' <Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; 'UTI' <undertheinfluence@egroups.com> Date: 07 September 1999 09:43 Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams >Ben, > >Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National >Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not >the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be offered >the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? > >* Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. >* Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. >* Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy >* Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. >Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from >Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. > >OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? > >It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other >tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of the >top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a >larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at a >greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. > >Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something >you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over the >previous years with the tournaments they've organised! > > >Colin. >UTI. > >P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost funds >over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let me >know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. > >