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From: "Ben Ravilious" <bravil@webleicester.co.uk>
To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: nationals
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:41:27 +0100
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Simon

That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in cheek' I =
shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a  'Home Energy Officer' (thats the =
1% truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly =
!?!=20

At least it was mildy amusing...

:-p

Ben
(Just ordered the Red minibus from the Nationals profits - its made by =
Matchbox)
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Simon P Barlow <dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net>
    To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
    Cc: Leicester Ultimate Club <red@ultimateweb.co.uk>; HUGHES, Chris =
<CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
    Date: 07 September 1999 18:43
    Subject: nationals
   =20
   =20
    Ben & Chris
   =20
    My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the =
point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a =
tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased =
considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of the =
"compulsory tournaments".
    I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to =
form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory =
tournaments in the future are put on then all the profits/less =
reasonable expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the present =
situation that we have found ourselves in where certain individuals =
profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate =
needs to be increased.
    And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You told =
me that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council =
decided/never asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave =
anyone any money back!!! (so did you make =A350 for every pitch you =
didn't pay for last time).
    I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and =
if they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ =
(Richer)  !!!
    Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? =
Red tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!!
    And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! =
apart from "Leicester city council"
   =20
    Si.b      now nursing my hands after having my knuckles rapped
   =20
    P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many =
tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an =
ultimate one as I know how many moaning players there are in our =
wonderful sport.
   =20
    Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20

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<DIV>Simon</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in =
cheek' I=20
shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a  'Home Energy Officer' =
(thats the 1%=20
truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly !?! =
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>At least it was mildy amusing...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>:-p</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"" size=3D3>Ben</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D3>(Just ordered the Red =
minibus from the=20
Nationals profits - its made by Matchbox)</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Simon P Barlow <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net">dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net</=
A>><BR><B>To:=20
    </B><A=20
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href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>=
=20
    <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>=
><BR><B>Cc:=20
    </B>Leicester Ultimate Club <<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:red@ultimateweb.co.uk">red@ultimateweb.co.uk</A>>; =
HUGHES,=20
    Chris <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk">CHughes@chelt.ac.uk</A>><BR><B>Dat=
e:=20
    </B>07 September 1999 18:43<BR><B>Subject:=20
</B>nationals<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>
    <DIV>Ben & Chris</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward =
the=20
    point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit =
out of a=20
    tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased=20
    considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of =
the=20
    "compulsory tournaments".</DIV>
    <DIV>I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate=20
    community decide to form the BUA to take over from =
the BUF,=20
    then when these compulsory tournaments in the future are put on =
then=20
    all the profits/less reasonable expenses, should go =
back to the=20
    BUA instead of the present situation that we have found ourselves in =
where=20
    certain individuals profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out =
that I=20
    feel this rate needs to be increased.</DIV>
    <DIV>And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You =
told me=20
    that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council =
decided/never=20
    asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave anyone =
any=20
    money back!!! (so did you make £50 for every pitch you didn't =
pay for=20
    last time).</DIV>
    <DIV>I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free =
and if=20
    they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ =

    (Richer)  !!!</DIV>
    <DIV>Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester =
council??? Red=20
    tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!!</DIV>
    <DIV>And by the way how many teams did bid for this years =
nationals!! apart=20
    from "Leicester city council"</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>Si.b      now nursing my hands after having =
my=20
    knuckles rapped</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run =
many=20
    tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an =
ultimate=20
    one as I know how many moaning players there are in our wonderful=20
    sport.</DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV>Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20
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