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From: "Iain Roberts" <iain2@ministryofsound.net>
To: "Wayne Retter" <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>, <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: nationals
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:36:11 +0100
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Thanks for bringing this up Wayne - I was going to before but didn't get
time.

WR>(even Southampton Uni are planning to charge their own students full
WR>whack for hosting any future TOUR events - mostly due of the number of
WR>NON students that attend!)

Skunks started hosting tournament back in the day that Al Baldwin was the
club secretary to raise funds so that we could make playing Ultimate cheaper
for our students (subsidise playing tops, fees etc).  This is still the
reason why they do it.  I've seen the figures for next year and providing
they don't arrange discounts for bulk bookings (not probable) then they
propose to charge £25 per session per pitch for outdoors and about £15 per
session for the sports hall.  A session is 1.5 hours, do your sums and then
add on another few hundred pounds for the extra indoor pitch at the school
at christmas.

It's not so much of a profit maker any more is it?

This means that students can't subsidise their players tops and their match
fees.  Maybe this will lead to less players, the result of this is that
there will be fewer players in the future.

I think you'll find this sort of scenario all over the country, and maybe
this is why there aren't that many tournament bids going in for the
'compulsory' events.  For all the time and effort put in (trust me it's a
fair amount) you don't get that much return if you're doing it privately and
none at all if you're running it for the club.

Ask Wayne and Chris how much they have made out of Layout Dreams over the
past few years - and they'll tell you not very much.

So please stop moaning about tournament costs, generally if the price is set
then it's there for a reason - they're not trying to make as much profit as
Charlie Mead but some would be nice.  And some appreciation for what they do
probably wouldn't go amiss.

To all the Druids on Britdisc, I think the idea for fees at Ross next year
is a good one.  Shall we start at Nationals?

Cheers

Iain
ex-Skunks
Now Druids