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Here's something from Forbes Life that was forwarded to me from a friend in
the States.. so we're the HiTech/Internet sport are we?

Enjoy,

Sasha XX

-----Original Message-----
From: swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov [mailto:swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov]On
Behalf Of Scott W. Sides
Sent: 09 December 1999 17:34
To: Brett Annaheim; Christine Louy; Dan Zaffuto; Daniel Duffy; Danny
Kasbar; Deez Ole; Geoff Burda; Jamie Witkowski; Katey Forth; Kent
Carlson; Mickey; Monica Raymond; Paul D. Cathers; Red; Sam Krosney;
Sasha Dall; Sean Elliott
Subject: Good? press for ultimate...


> >                              Monday, December 13, 1999
> >
> >                                     Forbes Life
> >
> >Sports Disc Drive  If you want to connect with the digital crowd over
sports,
> >put away those videos on how to improve your golf swing. Work on
perfecting
> >your "huck" and your "scoober."
> >
> >                                    BY Ann Marsh
> >
> >    ULTIMATE FRISBEE HAS BEEN VERY VERY GOOD to Steve T. Jurvetson. In
> >  1995 Jurvetson, then a 28-year-old partner in the Palo Alto venture
> >  capital firm of Draper Fisher Jurvetson, was wondering whether to fund
a
> >  small e-mail directory outfit called Four11.com. It turned out that
> >  Jurvetson and two of Four11's founders shared a passion for ultimate
> >  frisbee, or "disc."
> >
> >    That's what devotees call the game of ultimate frisbee, and these
fans
> >  are a devoted bunch indeed. If you plan to make your fortune in the
> >  dot.com world but you don't know a scoober from a blade, you'd better
> >  learn. Ultimate is the high-tech community's version of golf, but with
a
> >  lot more heart-attack potential.
> >
> >    Jurvetson liked Four11's business plan just fine, but more
important,
> >  he liked the style Michael Santullo and Larry Drebes displayed during
> >  the lunchtime pickup games the three played regularly. It wasn't just
> >  their skill, it was also their teamwork and the code of honor that
count
> >  for as much as athleticism in the sport's New Agey ethos. Vince
Lombardi
> >  has left the building.
> >
> >    Says Jurvetson, "If someone cheats or constantly criticizes, they
may
> >  not be someone you want to hire."
> >
> >    After a particularly sweaty ultimate frisbee face-off, the Four11
> >  founders and the Draper Fisher Jurvetson partners signed paperwork for
> >  $825,000 in seed funding on the hood of a car. Two years later Yahoo
> >  acquired Four11. Today DFJ's investment is worth around  $345 million
in
> >  Yahoo stock. As they say in discland, that's hot!
> >
> >    Ultimate hasn't quite reached golf's critical mass--yet. It's pretty
> >  hard to count noses, but supposedly there are at least 100,000 people
> >  nationwide who play it regularly. In the Bay Area are some of the
> >  country's busiest ultimate leagues--teams have names like Spastic
> >  Plastic, Saucy Jack and Feral Cows--but most of Silicon Valley can't
> >  commit to a regularly scheduled anything. Games tend to get arranged
ad
> >  hoc, say, when everyone finishes inventing the latest Web browser.
> >  Browse over to www.upa.org for
> >
> >    pickup game listings worldwide.
> >
> >    "Without sounding melodramatic, this is a game that mirrors a lot of
> >  the values of the Valley," says Peter Nieh, 33, a venture capitalist
> >  with Weiss, Peck & Greer in San Francisco. Nieh recently invested in
> >  Clip2.com after a referral from an angel investor he met on the field
> >  (if you happen to run into him there, just call him "Nee"). "It's
> >  fast-paced, intense, very dynamic. You never have time to set up.
Unlike
> >
> >
> >  football, it just goes and goes and goes."
> >
> >    In fact, ultimate frisbee came about as an antidote to the
oppressive,
> >  hierarchical vibes in sports like football. The first game was played
in
> >  1968 in Maplewood, N.J. Among the inventors:  Joel Silver, who went on
> >  to produce such humongous Hollywood hits as the Die Hard and Lethal
> >  Weapon series and The Matrix. "I moved in the student council that we
> >  investigate getting frisbee onto the high school curriculum," recalls
> >  Silver. Silver and his friends spent the next two years in the high
> >  school parking lot--the grass field was a later refinement--devising
the
> >  rules. "At the end of my obit, they'll say, 'He also invented ultimate
> >  frisbee,"' Silver predicts proudly.
> >
> >    Today's game is played on a football-length field with two teams of
> >  seven players each. Players throw the disc past defenders to a
teammate
> >  who scores by catching it in one of two end-zones at either end of the
> >  field. There are no "downs" or requirements for yardage gains, as in
> >  football. The team on offense keeps advancing until the defending team
> >  can wrest possession of the frisbee by knocking down or intercepting a
> >  pass. Play continues nonstop.
> >
> >    Players can score by throwing short, crisp passes up the field or by
> >  heaving long, dramatic "hucks" that are far more difficult to catch
> >  because of the frisbee's varying flight patterns in changing winds.
The
> >  result is intense sprinting, leaping and volleyball-like "lay outs"
for
> >  the disc. It's taxing, to put it mildly.
> >
> >    Just as important to its partisans is how ultimate departs from the
> >  underlying spirit of football, which is probably the reigning
corporate
> >  sports metaphor. Unlike football, ultimate is the ideal
flat-management
> >  sport. There are no fixed positions, no highly-specialized roles;
> >  everyone is a quarterback and everyone is a receiver. There are no men
> >  in gray flannel shoulder pads on an ultimate field.
> >
> >    The founding nerds also enshrined the spirit of tolerance for
spazzes
> >  and other athletically challenged players. They had felt the sting of
> >  rejection often enough themselves. Silver recalls, "The jocks were a
> >  clique. In ultimate, everybody played. It was a nonpolarizing game
that
> >  didn't hold to caste lines."
> >
> >    It's not unusual to attend a pickup game where talented athletes
share
> >  the field with first-timers dropping the disc right and left. Sarah
> >  Anderson, 33, the new vice president of marketing at Egreetings.com in
> >  San Francisco, just started playing the sport this past summer. You
can
> >  see her running around Golden Gate Park like a maniac on Saturdays
with
> >  husband Dante Anderson, 37, a former captain of the Canadian national
> >  ultimate team.
> >
> >    Turnabout is fair play. In October Dante got a job as director of
Web
> >  content at Everdream.com, which gives away free PCs while charging
steep
> >  monthly service fees to technophobes. He went into his Everdream
> >  interview expecting to talk about his resume. "They said, 'Yeah, yeah,
> >  but tell me more about frisbee,"' he recalls.
> >
> >    "Ultimate embraces the idea of people being many things instead of
> >  being a specialized cog in some moneymaking machine," says William
> >  (Willie) Herndon, a schoolteacher from Venice, Calif. who's been
playing
> >  ultimate frisbee almost as long as Joel Silver has. Herndon recently
> >  finished his own worshipful documentary on the sport, called Spirit of
> >  the Game, which gets shown privately in ultimate circles.
> >
> >    Spirit of the Game takes its title from the game's revered code of
> >  sportsmanship, painstakingly written by the frisbee founding fathers
in
> >  the early 1970s. This is a hallowed document; laugh only if don't give
a
> >  hoot whether or not your startup gets funding.
> >
> >    According to Spirit:  "Highly competitive play is encouraged, but
> >  never at the expense of the bond of mutual respect between players.
And
> >  never with an intention to abuse the agreed-upon rules of the game or
> >  destroy the pure joy of play." Bill Gates, you are hereby sentenced to
> >  remedial gym class.
> >
> >    Players resolve foul calls themselves on the field according to
> >  agreed-upon protocols and, ideally, they acknowledge their own
> >  transgressions. The sport is set to make its debut at the World Games
in
> >  Japan in 2001. Without referees.
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Valley of the Sun Ultimate
> >http://www.vots.org
>
> ***********************************************************************
> Robert Levy                   PHONE:  301-614-6123
> SSAI                          FAX:    301-614-6307
> NASA/GSFC code 913            EMAIL:  levy@climate.gsfc.nasa.gov
> Greenbelt, MD 20771
>
> Also affiliated with the Institute for Flying Disc Science
> ***********************************************************************
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