From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 16:12:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA22512 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22501 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:43 GMT Received: from relay2.nai.com (relay2.nai.com [161.69.3.67]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19422 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:41 GMT Received: from webshield2.na.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by relay2.nai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08175 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM ca-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY webshield2.na.nai.com ; Wed Jan 12 08:15:25 2000 -0800 Received: by na-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <Z6T7VVHN>; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:10:17 -0800 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F01B393B9@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" <caedman_oakley@nai.com> To: BritDisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Goaltimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:09:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I didn't really want to get involved in this, but there are some points that I wanted to see raised - seems I will be the one to raise them. 1 - Goaltimate is easier for people to identify with because there is a goal. As Jaimie so rightly pointed out (whilst missing the point ;-) ) Football is the biggest sport in the world - people can readily identify with something that is similar (see the ratings of things like field hockey and water polo when the UK is competing as opposed to the World Bowl (american football)) 2 - There is a large sponsorship effort for goaltimate by one person, who promotes it massively IN THE USA - ESPN is a US oriented TV Station (its in it's charter IIRC), which broadcasts around the world - much like Fox Sports (Sky sports to those in the UK) 3 - There is a parrallel which can be drawn between the following sports: Women's Football Field Hockey Ultimate Women's football in the US was not seen very widely in comparison to Men's Football at all - since the US won the women's world cup, you can hardly escape it - people like Brandy Chastain are now multi-million endorsement opportunities. In Field Hockey, it took Shaun Kerly et al. to springboard the sport to the screen (and even now that we haven't won anything like the Olympics since, it is fading into nothingness) Following this logic (dubious to say the least ;-) ) we need to win the Worlds and or World Clubs, to get TV sponsorship...... Remember that the finals can sometimes be seen (albeit on Channel 4 that well known Sprot channel.) Cads - tired, hungry and at work WAY too early.