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From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: Venues
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Speaking of venues - thank you to all those who offered to find venues for
T4, however I have had a bid, and they are going ahead. (For those of you
that are not aware - Aston University sold the pitches we had booked for T4,
and buldozers move in on July 1st) However I still need a venue for
Nationals.

In the meantime, where all off to sunny, tropical Leeds, courtesy of the
Janitors. Apologies to those of you who were looking forward to going to
Brimingham (!).

Chris
DoC


We have found that locations for tournaments is not difficult, instead
trying to persuade them that you are serious in trying to hire everything
they have for a 'frisbee' tournament is much more difficult. Some venue want
payment upfront, which for some of these can be inexcess of 1000 pounds. How
much do myself and Wayne make out of a tournament. Well, I'm turning into
something of a supermodel here, given the amount of grief (not effort, just
grief) I now get to the stage of I'm not doing Swindon for anything less
than 800 pounds. The majority of that profit comes from oversubscribing the
tournament. We have been stung by small turnouts before, so I always
underestimate the number of teams coming to a tournament. This year at
Swindon, we budgeted for 24 teams, the fact that 33 turned up made our day
(and our money)

Chris
Layout Dreams

> ----------
> From: 	matthew.lowe[SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com]
> Sent: 	23 May 2000 01:49
> To: 	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: 	Re: Venues
> 
> Convoy wrote
> 
> > Admittedly, the sport is growing in size, and the need
> > for leagues is not too distant.  But let's stop
> > getting our knickers in a twist.  People are saying
> > that there is a lack of large suitable venues, but
> > have people really made a great effort to look?  I
> > think not.  There's a whole country out there. I know
> > for sure that Point Blank have great hopes to organise
> > a tour event for next year, and we have several
> > options in mind.
> 
> I know of several venues as well, though I am yet to find out costs for
> these venues.
> 
> > This has been a useful time to kick
> > people up the backside and make them realise you can't
> > always rely on other people to do everything.  Perhaps
> > someone should post something on britdisc/BUF that
> > COMPREHENSIVELY details what organising a tournament
> > entails, and the incentives for teams/players to do
> > it.
> 
> Incentives. Chris/Wayne (Lyout Dreams), why don't you tell us the sort of
> money you make from hosting a tour event, might that be an incentive?
> 
> > It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to
> > ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players,
> > and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid
> > BUF/core few.
> 
> Amen
> 
> Hope you can all make it to Loughborough next summer:-)
> 
> Matt
> Swamp Donkeys
> 
> 
>