From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 15:08:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UE7Ws23465 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UE7Tp23451 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.jakinternet.co.uk (qmailr@[212.41.41.61]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4UE7OV22054 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 768 invoked by uid 101); 30 May 2000 13:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.41.50.89?) (212.41.50.89) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 30 May 2000 13:49:48 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.002163965892 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Tue, 30 May 2000 14:53:25 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:55:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) From: Nolan Taylor <nolan@daletaylor.co.uk> To: Britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: <B55986D3.2151%nolan@daletaylor.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <00a101bfc731$1064ce30$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > I am sick and tired of going to tournaments, having something cock > up because the TD didn't make a simple phone call to ensure that a service > was guaranteed, we don't get what we pay for, but the TD''s still end up > cleaning up and we STILL end up paying 80/ 90/ 100 quid for less than > brilliant service. > Hi Paul, I was in total agreement with you until you got to the idea of penalising TDs. I don't think any TD would organise an event if they thought they were likely to suffer the verbal onslaught and humiliation that Nancy has received. I think that is penalty enough for the cock up AND that it will ensure the same type of error does not occur again. Also, having organised the British Open for five years, I would ask you to consider this... I had a five year legal contract with the Saffrons and every year every aspect of the minutiae of that contract was gone over again and again AND further reiterated AND further agreed in writing. To infer that it is just a matter of a phone call is naivety itself. Every single year the Saffrons changed some aspect or did not deliver something which was agreed in writing, usually without warning. (I don't know how extensive your knowledge of the law is but if it's better than mine, which wouldn't be difficult, please feel free to correct me) I really felt it was tantamount to impossible for me to spend further time and/or risk vast sums of money, taking the Saffrons to court. SO, if the BUF were to undertake to punish TDs, they would have to support those TDs financially (as a minimum) when matters become litigious. One of the main reasons that I'm not holding the open this year is that I was so embarrassed when bars closed earlier than agreed, Parties simply didn't happen, bar-b-qs didn't happen, the correct no of pitches was not available, the date was changed, additional charges were levied on the players, showers were not available, car parking and camping were not clearly sign posted and fenced off, no PA system was available, no secure area was available for me.... I could go on!!!... Personally, I can assure you that anyone at the BUF attempting to penalise me for this would be lucky to get away with just an earbashing! in fact they'd have to take ME to court to get the cash. Please consider this. Cheers Nolan