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From: Roger Thomson <roger@kbw.co.uk>
Subject: Abuse of mailing lists and threats
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Dear all,

Don't I seem to have set him off! Apologies to those uninterested or those
who haven't been following my and PAUL MEANEY's postings. Read no further.

Firstly let me tell you that not only was I pretty shocked at reading
Paul's latest posting ( the one including 'come and have a go if you think
that you are hard enough') but I was pretty surprised that he didn't send
me it personally rather than expose everyone else to this. 

Now I know that I'm often sharp and strong-minded in the things I say on
Britdisc, and I'm more than willing to accept my fair share of flak - live
by the sword, die by the sword and all that, but I don't like getting
abusive and threatening mails, like this one Paul sent along as well:

>Roger ,
>
>	I've kept this one to ourselves. Just to politely say that if you
>ever tell me to fucking 'just roll over' on a public forum like britdisc
>I'll not be amused. Understand me sonny?

Where's the spirit in that? How am I supposed to face this man if I were
ever to play against him on an Ultimate field? It's especiall y sinister
since I have no idea who he is or what team he plays for, yet he obviously
knows me.

I think Paul will find that it was him who escalated the posts with:

'ahhhhhh, you're breaking my heart.'; 
'Gadzooks! that smarts! Pass the savlon, I have a cut from that razor wit!
'; and 
'Oh dear dear dear dear dear dear DEAR!!!'; 

all postings in his usual abrasive style which was commented on by Sammy
several posts ago and which we have all had to endure ever since Paul got
his hands on some reins of power. If he also concedes the point about the
schedule - which he has done (and unfortunately not gracefully), then I
think a retort to the above insulting language was more than called for and
in keeping with the retributory spirit which Paul himself condones.

I think we need to carefully consider what has gone on here and learn some
lessons for the future. The internet, mailing lists etc CAN have serious
consequences. You may only have read about it before, but I think from the
tone in the mail that Paul sent me you can all see what potential there is
for things to go wrong. If people are mature, sensible, and have a sense of
humour there are far fewer risks (I remember flaming Bud quite seriously
and him flaming me back - but I think he'd agree we still get on pretty
well whenever we see each other), but as broadcast media like this list
become more widely applicable we have to be more careful.

Do we need any new guidelines? Informational posting only? 

It would be a shame, but if it will help prevent others from getting
physically threatened (which is how I feel) then it may well be worth it. 

As for 'Come and have a go if you think that you are hard enough' and the
rest of the insults in Paul's appalling email - baah, it really is beneath
contempt and I just hope for his sake that he doesn't intend to pursue any
of his threats from behind his veil of anonymity.

Anyway, I'm going home. 

Roger
SLIGHTLY SADDER GUNNER THAN EARLIER TODAY.