From: Deirdre Mahon <deirdre.mahon@twobirds.com> To: "'Jonathan Palmer'" <jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk>, Ruth Taylor <ruth11@totalise.co.uk>, BritDisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:58:38 -0000 If cost is the real issue, then what about charging non-student teams a usual fixed fee and charging student teams a reduced fee per person; thus ensuring the events are not prohibitively expensive for up and coming talent regardless of squad numbers. Deirdre -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Palmer [mailto:jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk] Sent: 22 February 2001 13:30 To: Ruth Taylor; BritDisc Subject: Re: Tour Dates > I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing > Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for > students that are a lot cheaper. Term time or not is not really the issue, and which term time outdoor tournaments are you talking about, Student Outdoors + ?? Plus I'm sure that increasing the cost of Tour events will only make it easier for other TD's to increase the cost of their "cheaper" tournaments > As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams > SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least > 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these > events, then I would say that you're not that serious. One of the biggest reasons that these students teams can only manage 8-9 players is not that they aren't serious but that it was already very too expensive, especially when you add in travel. This increase in cost will only amplify this problem. > If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality > Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger serious team for the > summer and join them for the Tour. All very well in principle but much harder to do in practice, surely we should be encouraging new student players to start new teams, enter tour events and learn to play at a higher level. The growth ultimate numbers is going to come mostly from the student base I hope that this can be encouraged, student discounts sound like an excellent idea. Cheers Jon Palmer (DiscDoctors) >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" <ARA98MDL@sheffield.ac.uk> ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 BIRD & BIRD The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, we make every effort to keep our network free from viruses. However, you do need to check this e-mail and any attachments to it for viruses as we can take no responsibility for any computer virus which might be transferred by way of this e-mail. A full list of partners is available on request. Details of our offices are available from http://www.twobirds.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com