From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 11:28:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SBQbW01097 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBQXh01070 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:33 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBQWF04563 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:32 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Y4kR-000E1T-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:23 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14Y4kQ-000JEF-01; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:22 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <CJM6Y3VA>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:22:41 -0000 Message-ID: <F15CA8143F76D211A32A0000B4592FED1666C2@SERVER01> From: Max Keogh <max@student-reservations.co.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:22:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Rog et al, Don't worry. I'm quite calm and certainly don't want this to escalate to the levels of the aforementioned slanging match some years back. I simply felt that Dan's attitude was a little arrogant. He made a mistake and an apology would go some way towards resolving the situation and hopefully put him and his Nottingham teammates in a better light. I'm just making a point. Nothing more. Max -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:56 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS >A simple uncomplicated apology for >your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot >as we had at first thought. Max - what you're saying is true to some extent, but can't we all just <scouser voice>calm down</scouser voice>? Dan takes the point, this kind of things doesn't seem likely to ever happen again - so there seems little point forcing someone who had no bad intentions into an unheartfelt apology. He thought what he did was going to be funny, it just turned out to be a mistake. All this name-calling reminds me of when a certain nameless player threatened me physically after a heated Britdisc discussion about 5 years ago, we don't want to go down that road do we? Things have been so civilised for so long.... I don't think there's any need for us all to victimise him - it's a consequence of one of the aspects of our sport being at the stage it is. There's alot of different reasons for playing the sport, and alot of different attitudes to the game. An un-official BUF policy on not mentioning or alluding to drug-taking would help (after all it would probably be bad press for us to be seen as having to address this officially), but we've got to remember that for a lot of people the sport is a social one with all the connotations that brings, and we wouldn't want to disenfranchise them (us?) for the sake of an archaic unlibertarian law which is under constant threat of review. It's a tough cookie though. Even more reason to be glad you're not Ben Ravilious ;-) Laters, PieBoy (Bullfrog?) -----Original Message----- From: Max Keogh [mailto:max@student-reservations.co.uk] Sent: 28 February 2001 09:39 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > i went fucking apeshit. nice terminology. > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. We are. Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot as we had at first thought. Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" 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