From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 17:42:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CHeAb29727 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CHe8M29706 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:08 GMT Received: from server-12.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2CHe6L09072 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:06 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9176 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 17:34:08 -0000 Received: from mcproxy.mcww.net (HELO mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com) (195.153.204.5) by server-12.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 17:34:08 -0000 Received: by mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <GZQY8DAA>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: <EFF8811EA494D4119C990008C7868674ABA794@MCLONDON> From: David Trovell <David.Trovell@mediacomuk.com> To: "'Tim Rogers'" <trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate Directions: Do we care about our routes? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:35:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2CHe8M29707 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The people who founded the sport were hippies - good riddance and bring on the TV cameras! -----Original Message----- From: Tim Rogers [mailto:trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2001 16:13 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate Directions: Do we care about our routes? The founders of our beautiful game had a vision: a new sport that was not like traditional sports. Do we reject everything from our culture, because the time it was written in has gone out of fashion? People who believed more in that culture have left the sport, they don't like the conflict and yes to a certain extent it is their fault that they haven't propagated their vision. Incidently, I do call fowls when I see them, and as anybody who has ever played in my team will tell you I am as committed in a game as you will find any ultimate player to be. I also love the high of competitive ultimate, the passion, the pain, the freedom of expression, the fight, and even the social tension. Its what makes us human! Sport is life on fast forward. I think we as a community need to be more introspective. Even if we did want to be on TV then who is going to be interested in a wannabee sport. Tim Ro Sham Bo "You don't lose your soul all at once; you lose it a bit at a time." Not sure who said that, but its very true. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses. The information in this communiqué may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any other action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses The information in this communiqué may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any other action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Unencrypted Internet communications are not secured. As a result, MediaCom Holdings Ltd does not accept responsibility nor guarantee that the sender shown is the actual sender. MediaCom Holdings Ltd.Registered Office 180 North Gower Street,London NW1 2NB.Registered number 3525784 England. MediaCom Scotland Ltd.Registered Office, Great Michael House, Links Place,Leith Edinburgh EH6 7EZ Registered number 3296603 England MediaCom North Ltd.Registered Office, Ground Floor commercial Wharf, 6 Commercial Street,Manchester M15 4PZ.Registered number 3207931 England.