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Subject: Re: the flying leap point.
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:39:03 +1200
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Indoor zone defence in New Zealand is even more dull (is that possible ??)
than zone defence in the UK.

Yes they do use the basketball key which means that nearly all points are
scored through the 'flying leap'.

It gets to the stage where it;s an indoor version of hotbox.

Don't do it, or more to the point - get outdoors..... blah blah blah ....

Coops. (x Headrush 14), in NZ and now with a mini-cooper who's not quite
throwing sidearms yet, but the hammers are coming along after 3 months.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Ravilious <ben@ravilious.net>
To: BRITDISC <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2001 08:55
Subject: Re: the flying leap point.


> Probably of more importance is the whole issue of using the walls as
> boundaries indoors.
>
> In the last couple of years we have had two cases which have become
> litigious with players sustaining bad injuries through hitting the wall
> and/or other objects in the hall.
>
> I think the time may be approaching when we need to audit our injuries and
> see if there are any measures we could take to reduce them. Not using the
> walls as boundaries is an obvious one. Others maybe worth considering
> (thanks to Paul Marfleet for recent help with safety ideas) :-
>
> 1. Stopping people leaving their bags near the sideline.
>
> 2. Using the basketball 'key' as the endzone instead of the last few
metres
> of the court. Apparently this works perfectly well in New Zealand (?). The
> emphasis would be on jumping into the endzone rather than dangerous jumps
> towards the side walls. Suppose it doesn't really solve the 'flying leap'
> issue though.
>
> 3. Keeping the floor clean (some TD's already do this)
>
> 4. Stopping anyone from playing whilst drunk. People become less aware,
less
> cautious and more oblivious to pain and danger when they're pissed. We've
> all done it and it can seem a laugh until it goes wrong.
>
> Basically its all about cutting down risks. Maybe some of the points above
> are unimportant (discuss!) but it would be a worthwhile exercise finding
> out.
>
> Any medical students in need of a project???
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Giguere" <SGiguere@bluews.com>
> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: 26 March 2001 18:36
> Subject: RE: the flying leap point.
>
>
> > Hey Paul,
> >
> > I can't argue it anymore. Has that play always
> > been around with indoors?  I've always been outdoors
> > for the most part so perhaps that's my problem.
> > Too used to the big end zone where this stuff isn't
> > needed.
> > Thankfully it's outdoor season again so I've got
> > til next winter to figure out how to defend
> > against this crouching tiger offence without resorting
> > to a flailing kangaroo defence.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Waite [mailto:voodoo_1978@yahoo.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 26 March 2001 17:24
> > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > > Subject: re: the flying leap point.
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen,
> > >
> > > This is the first time I have written to britdisc -
> > > but i've made an exception in this case.
> > > The intention of most players who do this are aiming
> > > for the gaps not the opponents.
> > > In majority of cases the people that get hit during
> > > this play are the people without the spirit, since in
> > > most cases they are trying to impead the offensive
> > > players progress into the endzone by stepping across
> > > creating a forceout.
> > > I don't like it when fellow frisbee players get
> > > injured, but I don't feel that one of the few options
> > > against this defence should be stopped just because of
> > > the unco-ordinated people that can't tell the
> > > difference between a gap and a person.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Voodoo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
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