From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 28 21:01:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2SJvql10582 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2SJvpx10566 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2SJvoL15157 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.24.12] ident=root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14iM4Y-0006Eo-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:38 +0100 Received: from benjamcr (helo=localhost) by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.20 #10) id 14iM4f-0001aS-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:45 +0100 (BST) From: Benjamin Crick <benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk> To: Stephen Giguere <SGiguere@bluews.com> cc: "'britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The flying leap point In-Reply-To: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C72B@bluews.com> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0103282054230.2770-100000@keeler.central.susx.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is. Ben Crick On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Stephen Giguere wrote: > Hey britdiscers, > > Something that's getting more and more frequently in these > indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter > of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air > to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point. It's > particularly popular against a flood defence. > My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really > annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous > tactic. It's only a matter of time before some clever individual > sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team. In the > smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and > a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a > member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious > injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder > quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was > thankful is wasn't one of our women. > I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this > received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing > body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to > be dangerous play. > The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency > for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime > catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then > waste time bickering about it. > I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation > and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor > teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these > Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a > good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path. > You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through > someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then, that's > correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might > end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards > into the wall. > > -Steve > and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes. >