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From: "adam batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
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Subject: Re: Rescheduling of Tour 1
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:53:50 +0100
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Dear Si and All

The restrictions advised would have been practically impossible to enforce
or adhere to this weekend as there are so many other events occuring at the
venue, each with different regulations (advisory only) needing to be adhered
to depending on the surface being played upon (grass, astro turf, clay etc).

The weekend of 21/22 has only us booked in (Clifton College were leaving it
free as they have heavy committments the following week) and so we will be
able to play on the site and effectively adhere to guidelines.

Relocating it to another time means effectively cancelling as this problem
is liable to get worse not better, and playing some Ultimate with slightly
weaker teams admitedly, is better than playing no ultimate.

Fatboy
PS I do empathise with you as some of our (Druids) best players are unable
to make the new date!

----- Original Message -----
From: si <simon@deerglen.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Rescheduling of Tour 1


> Chris, Adam, Matt & Britdisc
>
> Is the next available date (21-22 April) going to be available??? I would
> think NO would be the answer as its in an exclusion zone. So why are we
even
> thinking about suggesting the weekend of the 21/22 April???  too cancel it
> two days before again, then reschedule in the big gap in the summer would
be
> ludicrous.
> As I understand it these areas of exclusion will increase not decrease!!!
> Please let us know how in two weeks we will be able to use the venue??
> Lets get real and reschedule for another date at another venue, as this
one
> is under threat of not being available for the rest of the season!!!
(sorry
> Matt and Adam) As are other tournaments!!
> Alot of Ultimate players in across the board are going to Rimini and
> obviously as no ultimate tourneys were to be played on the 21-22 April
have
> extended their stay so will now miss (new date) Tour 1. Please reorganise
> the tour too either the three remaining events or cancel it altogether
((as
> the rugby should have been (Southern shandy drinkers game League is the
> Best)).
>
> Also many people will have lives outside of ultimate (even me), and so
have
> arranged our hectic non playing lives around the tour and other tourneys
> such as Rimini, Brugge, Prague, so moving this (fixed date) tour is going
to
> create more problems than it solves from mine and other peoples and team
> perspectives.
>
> Can I request an EGM of the BUF committee and representatives for all
teams
> too discuss this matter and the further implications that foot and mouth
may
> have on the rest of the year. And not leave this upto just the DoC (sorry
> Chris) (at least discuss openly and objectively this problem BUF
committee).
>
> Si.b xxx
> Chevy (but my own opinion)
>
> p.s. Could we also look at excluding RED from every event due to Leicester
> being a TB hotspot :-)
> p.p.s. All the above is to be regarded as null and void by no humour
players
> and committee members as written after too many beers ( that's bitter not
> lager you shandy drinkers) at £1.34 a pint (only in the north).
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
> To: <rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk>; "BritDisc (E-mail)"
> <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Rescheduling of Tour 1
>
>
> > Rob (and I'm sure others)
> >
> > Later in the year was considered, but was discounted for a number of
> reasons
> > at this stage - yes there is a number of free weekends later in the
year,
> > but this is why we are not using them - yet.
> > 1. Adam has an opportunity to proceed with two weeks time - we were
aware
> > that this may clash with people not returning from Rimini in time,
however
> > it is a lot easier, and less costly to attempt to organise the event
> quickly
> > while we still have a window of opportunity.
> > 2. The reason behind attempting such a rapid turnaround was partially to
> do
> > with the fact that there is no guarantee that this event will take place
> in
> > two weekends time, and then we will have to reschedule in the summer.
> > 3. Why keep the summer free? - since the F&M crisis is continuing I
fully
> > expect that we may need some of the later summer weekends to recover
other
> > tour events. All the other events are on the edge of large tracts of
> > farmland, and are equally susceptible as Bristol to being called off and
> > postponed, unless of course the government comes up with a more
successful
> > plan than killing everything in sight with more than 3 legs.
> >
> > My apologies but unless the F&M crisis is brought to bear, then we are
> > likely to face a very unpredictable year. May I suggest that all players
> > check the britdisc archives, the buf website, or the TD for each event
to
> > ensure that play is taking place before you travel.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > DoC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk [mailto:rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk]
> > Sent: 06 April 2001 10:25
> > To: BritDisc (E-mail)
> > Subject: Rescheduling of Tour 1
> >
> >
> > Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting
> > quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend.
> >
> > However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why
> the
> > need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly
places
> > importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this
> > rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of
the
> > year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work
and
> > train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we
> would
> > have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll
> > manage 7 or 8.
> >
> > There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams,
> affecting
> > their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary,
> there
> > is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that
> > decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any
> > consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year?
> >
> > Rob
> > Chevron
> >
>