From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 19 15:31:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3JEUl214680 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JEUkD14670 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:30:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JEUka27227 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:30:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id <Tc251b8cb5303910e97@mailgw.chelt.ac.uk>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:28:43 +0100 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2H2BVQHQ>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:28:06 +0100 Message-ID: <E8E2FD6D7B77D411A768009027E01DB301E191F0@exchange.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> To: "'lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com'" <lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 1 rules and scheduling Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:28:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lars, (and everyone else asking lots of questions) As you have identified these are not our rules that we are playing to - they are the MAFF's, but we still have to go with them. MAFF's assumption for spectators is that they won't sit down or do anything else, only stand up. This is flawed but despite discussions they are happy with this. Similarly as players we have to go through a huge amount of cleaning ourselves, but they still consider some hay with disinfectant to be suitable for cars. Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill the virus, it is easily denatured - but is also extremely virulent. Disinfectant is required to kill it in cold water. The food rules are similarly confusing and complicated - there are different rules for different types of food, different packaging etc. So we have simplified this by saying no food other than what is prepared on site - that way the site caterers can comply with H&S and all of MAFF's reg's. The other issue to this is not food prepared or purchased on site can be taken away. Adam has assured me that all food will be reasonably priced. Scheduling Captains meeting is at 8:45. This is to ensure all teams are aware of the regs and Captains are then responsible for ensuring that their team complies. We are planning for games to start at 9:15 - but do have some flexibility to start late if there is a complete backlog of players wanting to get into the showers. Aim to be ready to play at 9:15. We will not start games until all players who arrived early are ready to go, but if you arrive at 9:10 and are late 'cos you have had to shower, then unlucky - all usual rules apply for lack of attendance. End of day Obviously 600 people diving for the showers at the end of the day will cause chaos. So we have staggered the finishing times of the teams - even though there are enough pitches to finish all the games at the same time. Please stick to the schedule, and have patience at the end of the day. Similarly get in the shower, wash, get out, leave - people will be waiting. Kit Tour rules indicate penalties for lack of suitable kit - IGNORE THESE - I am well aware that playing kit does not dry well when sealed in a plastic bag. Just make sure that you have enough light / dark shirts for each day. Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats / waterproofs / etc. I am well aware that ultimate players can be sensible, intelligent, and responsible on the rare occasions they wish to be. Lets make the most of the event. Chris DoC PS - don't believe Adam's stories about good weather - we've just had half an hour of snow in Cheltenham -----Original Message----- From: lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com [mailto:lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com] Sent: 19 April 2001 14:05 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: tour 1 Adam I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament before starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time depending on the facilities available. Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each teams saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can allow others ahead. What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players not being showered? I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to these extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but spectators don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things? Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do their best to help it all run as smoothly as possible. Regards Lars Slipdisc