From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 19 15:59:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3JEwqc21578 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:58:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JEwpD21571 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:58:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JEwoa07684 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:58:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from hq1039 [212.159.139.119] (ruth11@totalise.co.uk) by mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:58:39 +0100 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 19 Apr 01 15:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c0c8e0$77d9b600$778b9fd4@hq1039.bass.co.uk> From: "Ruth" <ruth11@totalise.co.uk> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Tour 1 rules and scheduling Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:52:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk That doesn't answer the question about whether those of us staying in B&Bs across the street from the pitches will be ok to shower there both at the beginning and end of the day? Also, are you saying that all teams are starting their games at 9.15? We'll have to be there by 6am at least to get 600 people through the showers if so... Surely staggering the games at the start would automatically lead to a staggering at the end, so wouldn't be too hard to organise? I realise this would make the day longer, but we have light now until 8pm... Ruth -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk> To: 'lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com' <lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com>; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Tour 1 rules and scheduling >Lars, (and everyone else asking lots of questions) > >As you have identified these are not our rules that we are playing to - they >are the MAFF's, but we still have to go with them. > >MAFF's assumption for spectators is that they won't sit down or do anything >else, only stand up. This is flawed but despite discussions they are happy >with this. Similarly as players we have to go through a huge amount of >cleaning ourselves, but they still consider some hay with disinfectant to be >suitable for cars. Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill the >virus, it is easily denatured - but is also extremely virulent. Disinfectant >is required to kill it in cold water. > >The food rules are similarly confusing and complicated - there are different >rules for different types of food, different packaging etc. So we have >simplified this by saying no food other than what is prepared on site - that >way the site caterers can comply with H&S and all of MAFF's reg's. The other >issue to this is not food prepared or purchased on site can be taken away. >Adam has assured me that all food will be reasonably priced. > >Scheduling >Captains meeting is at 8:45. This is to ensure all teams are aware of the >regs and Captains are then responsible for ensuring that their team >complies. >We are planning for games to start at 9:15 - but do have some flexibility to >start late if there is a complete backlog of players wanting to get into the >showers. Aim to be ready to play at 9:15. We will not start games until all >players who arrived early are ready to go, but if you arrive at 9:10 and are >late 'cos you have had to shower, then unlucky - all usual rules apply for >lack of attendance. >End of day >Obviously 600 people diving for the showers at the end of the day will cause >chaos. So we have staggered the finishing times of the teams - even though >there are enough pitches to finish all the games at the same time. Please >stick to the schedule, and have patience at the end of the day. Similarly >get in the shower, wash, get out, leave - people will be waiting. > >Kit >Tour rules indicate penalties for lack of suitable kit - IGNORE THESE - I am >well aware that playing kit does not dry well when sealed in a plastic bag. >Just make sure that you have enough light / dark shirts for each day. >Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats / >waterproofs / etc. > >I am well aware that ultimate players can be sensible, intelligent, and >responsible on the rare occasions they wish to be. Lets make the most of the >event. > >Chris >DoC > >PS - don't believe Adam's stories about good weather - we've just had half >an hour of snow in Cheltenham > >-----Original Message----- >From: lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com [mailto:lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com] >Sent: 19 April 2001 14:05 >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: tour 1 > > > > >Adam > >I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament before >starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time depending >on >the facilities available. > >Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each teams >saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make >allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can >allow >others ahead. > >What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players not >being >showered? > >I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to these >extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but >spectators >don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things? > >Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do >their >best to help it all run as smoothly as possible. > >Regards > >Lars >Slipdisc >