From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 2 13:54:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f42Cq0g07170 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:52:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f42CpwD07159 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:51:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from bluews.com ([193.123.230.61]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f42Cpva04116 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:51:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from seer.bws_europe.bluews.com by bluews.com;Wed, 02 May 2001 12:53:56 GMT id <JR7A40R5>; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C8F0@bluews.com> From: Stephen Giguere <SGiguere@bluews.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 Ejections Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:44:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm seeing a strange connection between Albatross and that couple who almost won 3 million. Miss the deadline and pay the price. While I don't think it's crazy to penalise teams who don't sent the money on time, I do know I'd feel if bit annoyed if we got our cheque in on time but still were the 29th team in behind a few new ones. It might be an idea to impose two deadlines the way some ticket sales work. The first deadline open only to teams who were in the previous event(s)and the second afterwards to allow new teams in to any spaces left by teams not making the first dead line. This way new teams with a quick draw on the cheque book can only really bump out last event's teams who are really slow on the draw. ------------------- Steve G Flyght Club > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan_Turner@bdo.co.uk [mailto:Jonathan_Turner@bdo.co.uk] > Sent: 02 May 2001 13:28 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: albatrossultimate@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Tour 2 Ejections > > > Like MMM, Albatross has been refused entry to the over > subscribed Tour 2. I > realise that our cheque was sent late, but it seems crazy to penalise > teams that played in Tour 1. I admit that i have not seen the > list of teams > playing at Banbury, but i believe there is space for 28 > teams. Strangely, > this coincides with the number who actually played in > Bristol, and to me, > it seems only fair that a precedent on entry should be made to those > defending places. > > Albatross made the effort to arrange a team at last minute to play in > Bristol, giving us a position to defend. It now seems unfair > that we are > not in a position to do this. If ejection is chosen on an > administration > basis, would it not seem more reasonable to favour teams > that have already > played? > > > > Jo Turner > > Albatross > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > Chris Hughes <cjhughes@talk21.com> | Block Address | > Add to > Address Book > > > To: > "'jonathon.turner@bdo.co.uk'" > <jonathon.turner@bdo.co.uk>, > "'jo_turner@yahoo.com'" <jo_turner@yahoo.com>, > > "'john.garrett@otis.com'" <john.garrett@otis.com>, > > "'NWEBBER@DERA.GOV.UK'" <NWEBBER@DERA.GOV.UK>, > > "'bruce@pointblank.co.uk'" <bruce@pointblank.co.uk> > > > CC: > 'Andrew Tucker' <andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk>, 'u8c' > > <u8c@egroups.com>, "'punwin@grantham.ac.uk'" > > <punwin@grantham.ac.uk>, 'Dora Kemp' <dak12@cam.ac.uk> > > > Subject: > Tour 2 Ejections > > > Date: > Tue, 1 May 2001 23:30:55 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > All, > > I regret to inform you that due to the over subscription of teams at > Tour 2 you have been unfortunately selected as a team that will not be > able to attend. Please see below for the reasons. > > I apologise for the delay in this but unfortunately it has not been > possible for me to make an earlier decision. It is important > that teams > organise their entries faster, and having entered ensure that they do > have a team ready and able to compete. When the tournament is > limited in > size we must ensure that teams that are expected to attend > actually turn > up. > > You will of course have all monies refunded to you. > > Individual players will be able to play for other teams under > the guest > rules, and this will not compromise the rostering of your team. Please > ensure that your players know this and the reasons why their team is > not attending. > > If you wish to discuss this further please mail me rather than anyone > else (particularly Paul Unwin - TD) as he had no input in the > decision, > other than providing information to the u8c. > > Chris Hughes > DoC > > Reasons for Ejection: > Point Blank - PB have been blacklisted for late withdrawal from Tour > one as per the tour rules. This would also have been applied to Skunks > for the same reasons but they have declined to enter because of this. > This is clearly laid out in the tour rules as distributed to > team contacts > at the beginning of the season. > > Albatross & Mohawk Mwnci Magic - Both teams were one of many teams who > entered the event late. However, the decision of the u8c committee was > to eject teams who had not paid their deposit in time - since > notification of this was given in the tour rules at the > beginning of the > season, > and the issues involved with raising funds are less when talking about > a sum of 15 pounds. When more than one team did not pay the deposit, > but had paid tournament entry fee, the last entering teams > would be the > teams who would be declined. In this situation, both teams were on > separate days from any other teams in the same situation, and > so did not > rely on the order of envelopes being opened. > Both Albatross and Mohawk Mwnci Magic can not be ejected from T3 in > this, or any other fashion, assuming that you satisfy the entry > requirements for Southampton, including the tour deposit. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > This email is confidential and may be privileged; it is for use of the > named recipient(s) only. 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