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From: Kevin Lowe <kevin.lowe@curved-logic.com>
To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Rules Question 2
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Since I was kind of involved in this argument with Dave, I'll put my =
tuppence worth in=20
now. I'd actually had this 'discussion' with some Druids just before =
this, to find out the=20
'internationally agreed' view. As a result, I stayed out of the on-pitch =
argument, still=20
unsure about this rule.

The situation, as described by Dave, was that a player ran out of bounds =
while=20
chasing the disc. He caught it in bounds (having taken off from in =
bounds as well), but=20
the question is whether he was making a play on the disc while chasing =
it. The rules=20
state, "Receiving players may not go out-of-bounds to make a play on the =
disc".

The junior in question made this call, as he learnt it in 1994 playing =
against Sweden.=20
One of the GB Juniors was attempting to catch an overhead, and he =
stepped outside=20
of the pitch while the disc was in the air, before coming back in bounds =
to make the=20
catch. The Swedish juniors called it even before he attempted to catch =
the disc. As far=20
as they were concerned, if he went outside the pitch, he must not =
influence the play=20
until the disc was caught. I think the problem is how to define 'making =
a play on the disc'.=20

As to whether it should have been called is a totally different matter. =
The spirit in this=20
game was not good. Both teams have good spirit records, but that seems =
to go out of=20
the window whenever they meet each other. I really don't know why, but =
we have=20
vowed to change this next time we meet.

The problem here is that some players believe that rules should be =
observed, whatever=20
the game. This was not GB Juniors Vs Sweden, but if they don't make the =
calls (and=20
have them made against them) in general games, they will get even more =
walked over=20
internationally. The same argument applies to dropping the pull. If it =
doesn't get called,=20
no one learns. Sure, if they were inexperienced, explain it, and let =
them off, but if it's=20
in the rules, and it's likely that it would be called by another team, =
you've got to learn.

I hope this rule does get cleared up. It's one that's confused me for =
years. It's worse indoors, when you consider the walls being out of =
bounds. Should you be allowed to push yourself away from the wall to =
make a cut? Can you be leaning against a wall when you catch a disc? Or =
as any Shotgun player would say, "Who cares? Get outside, get a life!". =
Thank God indoors is over for another season.

Kevin.
--=20
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