From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 25 15:28:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6PEOvo19165 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:24:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6PEOto19147 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:24:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from aluminium.rcp.co.uk (backbone-station2.rcp.co.uk [194.154.18.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6PEOsq11345 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:24:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.154.28.161] by aluminium.rcp.co.uk (NTMail 5.06.0016/NT1534.00.51ac46a4) with ESMTP id xfbidaaa for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:25:36 +0100 Received: by arsenic.rcp.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <PPBB4ANH>; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:19:40 +0100 Message-ID: <217F6DFA440ED111ACDA00A0C906B00603098501@arsenic.rcp.co.uk> From: Andy Cotgreave <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk> To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!! Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:19:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk all this talk about what happened at Leeds is fasicnating. Some of the Britdisc readers weren't there, any chance of someone actually posting the *results* of the tournament? I keep reading "leeds did well" - what, did they come fourth, or eighth? Andy Chevvy > -----Original Message----- > From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com] > Sent: 25 July 2001 14:24 > To: jon.copeland@bookham.com; Arun_S@hway.co.uk; > rikshipley@ntlworld.com > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!! > > > > I seem to remember this happening before in the first U8 > tour, and teams were moved up then. So it seems that it > should have happened again here there really should be no > problem with that. The fact that leeds took 4th spot was not > ideal but once you have > done the schedual you do go for the easiest option. > > Anyway what is done is done. Leeds played well and earnt > there place can we just leave it at that but maybe set a rule > of thumb for the future so as to avoid this? > > Hannah > > Lighting Design Engineer > LiDAC > Tel : 020 8781 8315 > Fax : 020 8781 8018 > > > > > > Jon Copeland <jon.copeland@bookham.com>@warwick.ac.uk on > 07/25/2001 02:15:38 PM > > Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > > > To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> > cc: (bcc: Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS) > Subject: RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!! > Classification: > > > > Arun/Rik > > I sympathise with your Friday morning dilemma, but surely the > easiest thing > to do would be leave the 4th space empty and not promote LLL > from 9th to > 4th. Admittedly this would have left byes in the fight for semi final > places. But that's not your fault. > > I thought the structure of the tour is supposed to make it > impossible for > any team outside the upper group to penetrate the top half of > that group, > over one tour event. > > Also by promoting LLL from 9th to 4th they would not receive the full > implications of getting knocked out of the top eight from the > previous tour. > The tour is about consistency of play not what you can pull > out of the bag > on the day. > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arun Sharma [mailto:Arun_S@hway.co.uk] > Sent: 25 July 2001 13:20 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!! > > > > To the Ultimate Committee. > > We only found out about clapham's withdrawal on Friday. The > schedule had > been written and we wanted to change it as little as > possible. We tried > getting hold of the u8c committee but failed. When we > reseeded the teams it > was unavoidable that one team or another would have had to > have byes and > have played less games.... we were just trying to limit the > damage late on > Friday with a busy day at work - hence the action taken. > > You may feel that this sounds a bit dodgy but we had to make > a decision and > the action taken was the easiest and quickest way. I > apologise to the > ultimate committee and any teams that feel hard done by but > as any other > tournament director will confirm, last minutes changes cause > problems which > often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable. > > Please be assured that any decision made was for the interest > of all teams. > Apologies once again and I hope you all still respect Rik and I as > tournament directors who would still want to hold a tour > event in Leeds. > > Arun/Rik > > > Member of the General Insurance Standards Council > > This email, together with any attachment(s), is for the exclusive > and confidential information of the addressee(s). Any other > distribution, > use or reproduction without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised > and strictly prohibited. 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