From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 13 17:09:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8DG3vA22176 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:03:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DG3o822123 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:03:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway.domain ([195.92.53.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8DG0UH05541 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:00:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by GATEWAY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <SN8D84WS>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:06:17 +0100 Message-ID: <C3517E8D620CD411B3FC00C04FA164E91541D4@GATEWAY> From: Jakob Donkersloot <jakob.donkersloot@co-activ.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: New Association and the coed tour Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:06:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f8DG3p822126 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To everyone else who may want to point this passage out to me: I did read the document, but missed that bit. It'll only make me comment on it though. Hahaha, you can't silence the voice of insanity (surely reason..?) Anyway, £10 is an exorbitant amount for what is appropriately called being a 'guest'. If people are 'ducking the main membership fee' then they obviously do not feel they get their money's worth. If 'large numbers of existing players' are only wanting to attend one 'official BUA event' then either charging them twice as much for that event (normal tournament fee divided by usual number of people on a team) or getting them to become a member of the BUA can hardly be called inclusive and certainly not reasonable. People playing as guests are exactly that, they can at most be expected to pay some administration fee. It would be fair though for there to be restrictions, such as number of non-members on a team (exeptions for student teams..?) and also number of times a person can be a guest in a year (say once or twice). That's it for the moment (expect more to follow when I discover more "hidden" sections in the proposal) Hedge ------------ Hedge, I think that pick-up player part of your second point is covered in Provisional Membership An existing player who only intends to attend one ?official? BUA event (e.g. a foreign guest player at a Tour event) will be offered a per-event Provisional Membership fee entry. The tournament director might be given a cut from this in order to encourage collection. This Provisional membership will require the player to register their details (for rostering purposes if nothing else) and will be set at a high enough rate to prohibit large numbers of existing players from ducking the main membership fee. We feel that a provisional one-event fee of £10 is reasonable.