From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 11 10:50:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9B9UfV24900 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9B9UdX24882 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9B9UcC29879 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:38 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25586 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2001 09:24:05 -0000 Received: from mail.oyster.co.uk (HELO aurora.oyster.co.uk) (193.132.201.148) by server-42.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 09:24:05 -0000 Received: by AURORA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4DJDTJFV>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:29 +0100 Message-ID: <7165D5A55FC4D41184DB00D0B7B9E62D036D5CEA@AURORA> From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: claphambullfrogs@yahoogroups.com, London League <londonleague@yahoogroups.com> Subject: London Winter League Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f9B9UdX24886 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Indoors Schmindoors! In a bid to keep outdoor ultimate alive over the winter Clapham Ultimate, the Fluid Druids, TeamShark and Smash & Grab are delighted to bring you the 'London Winter League'. There will be 5 or 6 one day tournaments in the London Winter League: 2 before Christmas and 3 or 4 afterwards. Each event will have 6 or 8 teams attending so that we can play sensible formats - switching between pools with one crossover game or direct knockout or 'double elimination', depending on the number and quality of teams attending, the weather and whim of the founder team captains. We'd like to get 8 teams as often as possible to give as many London teams as we can a chance to participate and we're also happy to receive entry applications from teams outside London who want to maintain some competetive contact with the real game. 1st date Sunday 28th October. We know it clashes with the Warwick Bears reunion but there were no other dates. 2nd date Sunday 25th November. We know it clashes with Leeds Indoors but you make your choices in life. Scoring mechanism for Grand Prix points accumulation (still being finalised and debated but won't change too much): 10 points for every game win, plus the goal difference accumulated in that game. Goal difference points to be doubled in the semifinals (and/or 3rd/4th play-offs) and quadrupled in the final. Finals Day: The top finishing teams will be invited to another one day event at the end of the winter season for an all action finale. In order not to discourage teams which may miss 1 or 2 events we may take the best 3 or 4 results, to be finalised by the founder team captains at some later date. Relegation, Waiting Lists and Qualification: Given we *may* have more than 8 teams interested, and to spice up the action, we'd like to introduce the concept of relegation and qualification. If we have an 8 team tournament any teams finishing in the bottom 2 non-founder teams *may* be relegated out of the next event if sufficient teams want to enter the next event. Consultation with the fouder team captains will decide how teams will be allowed to play back in -> either through seeding, our desire for the best competition at these events, some kind of qualifying game, random chance or a waiting list. Price: To be somewhere in the region of £30 per team per event to cover marked pitches and other tournie stuff. There will be prizes and other silliness as ideas roll in (feel free to submit!). Other points: 1/ Games to one hour or 13 probably as we've got to squeeze in 3 or 4 a day each depending on format. 2/ We'll play the penalty shoot-out format ending in the event of a tie. For a bit of a change, excitement, to try it out - and so that Chevron might come down and give it a go. We may well play some of the events with other trial rules - like the 'Callahan goal' (suggested by Wayne), where catching an opposition pass in their zone is a goal for your team; or the 2 point rule if behind halfway. 3/ We will have a bad weather cancellation process in case of extremely poor weather. Rain and wind is not extremely bad weather though. All of us have played big games at Worlds in wind and rain - and practice in those conditions is important (and fun). 5/ Myself, Wayne, Milky and Nolan constitute the 'London Winter League Committee' and all our decisions are final and binding. Even if we decide to give a team bonus points for playing in wetsuits or something similarly stupid. 6/ Milky from TeamShark has suggested we should move venue and play some in Oxford, some in Eastbourne. But London is so nicely central for 90% of the constituency - I'm not saying we're completely averse, but the rest of the committee will need some persuading: this on ice for now. Whaddya fink? Are you interested? Let me know if your team would like to enter either of the pre-Christmas dates. Reply quick as there aren't alot of places going and first come first served may apply where we can't decide between teams. The Silver Bear Clapham Ultimate #1 PS I wrote this last night and do have a real job :-0 ----------------------------------------------------------- Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd.