From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 15:14:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9VF9sw19040 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VF9lX19008 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:48 GMT Received: from exch-student.livjm.ac.uk (exch-student.livjm.ac.uk [150.204.254.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VF9kR28346 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:47 GMT Received: by exch-student.livjm.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <V6AJJDSN>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:40 -0000 Message-ID: <5490A5070B3DD411B0FD00508B60C645ABC505@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> From: Deffley Leanne <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk> To: "'Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com'" <Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com> Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: women Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do you think that by HAVING to play women (2-5/1-6/whatever) in student ultimate that would FORCE teams to have to encourage women to play, women would have a more definite role to play in the team and as they had that status, they would themselves have more motivation to remain in the game? Just a thought Leanne -----Original Message----- From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com] Sent: 31 October 2001 14:54 To: Rebecca Humphries; Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: re: women Becca, I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women. Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many women and that would be even worse. My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of us and still came 2nd so keep them coming... Jesper "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 31/10/2001 14:04:29 Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: Subject: re: women Want some more opinion - I doubt it!! Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split. You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it that). It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every game we played!! Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while. >From: Nicole Roberts >To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: re: women >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT) > >Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I >feel very sorry for Anna. > >If you look at the top four teams in student nationals >last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I >appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but >it's a start. > >A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an >excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be >necessary). > >By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing >co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student >women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do >reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven >players, not just players without breasts... > >Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail >unless we have some university that's willing to host >co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with >either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or >those horrid things we call finals... > >Okay, had my tuppence, back to work > >nicole >mohawks > >____________________________________________________________ >Nokia Game is on again. >Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new >all media adventure before November 3rd. 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