From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 3 11:30:45 2002 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g03BQNf26428 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:26:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03BQLu26420 for <britdisc-real@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:26:22 GMT Received: from lonsvrc002.shreeveport.com ([213.219.50.251]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g03BQJF09022 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:26:19 GMT Received: from 192.168.2.100 by lonsvrs001.shreeveport.com Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:33:43 -0000 Received: by lonsvrc002 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <Z2YNK5QL>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:34:16 -0000 Message-ID: <91321C372670D411BC5700508BEF05A71C2E81@lonsvrc002> From: James Hammersley <hammersleyj@shreeveport.com> To: "'Roger Thomson'" <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>, "'Christian Nistri'" <wigsy22@hotmail.com>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Re: BUA Diary 2002 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:34:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nationals should be moved to earlier in the year. If nobody defends its current position, shouldn't we just move it? Milk teamshark -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com] Sent: 02 January 2002 13:55 To: 'Christian Nistri'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Re: BUA Diary 2002 >If you would like to start a Britdisc >debate on the subject then I would be interested to >hear what the consensus of opinion is. Wigsy's right - we all hate playing in the ridiculous conditions we often get at Nationals. Which seems wrong given that this is the 'Open' Nationals and the most important single event to the majority of the UK Ultimate community. Si is right that it's a great way to end the season and he draws a good parallel between Nationals and the FA Cup, but I'm sure even the FA wouldn't arrange the FA Cup Final when they thought there was a good chance the weather would be atrocious. Having it at least another one, maybe two weeks earlier would increase the chances of good weather. Would it not make sense to either swap it with an event which, though great fun I'm sure, is of considerably less importance to the majority of players (the Co-ed Nationals)? Or to move them both forward and bump the British Open from the calendar (surely an event without overwhelming portfolio if there ever was one)? Or just squeeze them up tighter so that Nationals is the weekend after Co-ed; those playing at both are obviously psycho enough that playing back-to-back weekends will probably make them even happier. You could even squeeze the Open, Co-ed Nationals and Nationals onto consecutive weekends, or have the Open then the Co-Ed Nationals the weekend after and Nationals two weekends later. Anything to have Nationals even one weekend earlier than 21/22 Sept! We may even get sun that way :-) My first tuppence-worth for 2002, Happy New Year to all frisbee players everywhere! Silver Bear CU#1 PS If ther -----Original Message----- From: Christian Nistri [mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com] Sent: 27 December 2001 12:20 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: Re: BUA Diary 2002 For those interested Si weekes replied as follows. He also said that he is away now till 6th Jan so won't be able to respond again till then. wigsy >Hi Wigsy, > >Sorry about the delay, but I have had no internet >access until now. > >I see the tour and nationals as similar to the >Premiership and the FA Cup. I think the Tour is now >undoubtedly the premier event of the season and >nationals plays second fiddle. Personally I think once >the tour is finshed, nationals is an excellent way to >end the season with a highly compettive tournament. >Now if the majority disagree then I am happy to change >it, but I am not going to alter the current set up off >my own back. If you would like to start a Britdisc >debate on the subject then I would be interested to >hear what the consensus of opinion is. > >Hope you had a good Christmas. >See you in the New Year, > >Si Weeks > >--- Christian Nistri <wigsy22@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi >Si, > > don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to > > you directly but i > > wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate > > Nationals to the last > > weekend of the season again. As long as i have been > > playing people have been > > moaning about the weather for what should be the > > premiere tournament of the > > season, and i was sort of hoping that with the > > advent of the BUA we could > > break with tradition and make a bit more effort for > > Nationals. I fully > > understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I > > would hope that people > > would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever > > it was. That way we may > > avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As > > always, open to general > > discussion. > > cheers > > wigsy > > > > > > > > >From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk > > >Reply-To: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk > > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > >Subject: BUA Diary 2002 > > >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:24:55 +0000 > > > > > >Hello everyone, > > > > > >In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide > > you all with a list of > > >the > > >proposed dates for all the main tournaments next > > year. This list is by no > > >means > > >all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum > > of events that I would > > >like > > >to see happen. It provides three purposes: > > > > > >(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your > > diaries for 2002. > > >(ii) It allows those people who wish to bid to > > host one of these events > > >to > > >know which is the most appropriate weekend. > > >(iii) It allows those people who want to plan > > additional tournaments to > > >work > > >around the proposed schedule for the main events. > > Having said that with the > > >number of players and teams increasing so much year > > on year, there is no > > >reason > > >why we cannot have two or even three tournaments > > running on any one weekend > > >next > > >year. > > > > > >With regards to some of the tournaments listed > > below, particularly the open > > >tour > > >events, I have already been approached by people > > who have booked venues for > > >particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be > > able to confirm to > > >these > > >people as soon as possible if their location will > > be the chosen venue I > > >also > > >would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid > > for any event/s. > > > > > >Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in > > hosting one of the > > >events > > >listed below should email or write to me with an > > official bid within one > > >month > > >of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in > > this bid should be: > > >- Geographical location > > >- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor > > venues that have not > > >previously been used) > > >- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for > > indoors) > > >- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to > > this) > > >- Dates that the facilities are available > > >- Accommodation provision > > >- Catering facilities > > >- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs, > > physios, party) > > > > > >Please send all bids to: > > >Simon Weeks > > >23 Shepards Close > > >Fareham > > >PO14 3AJ > > > > > >Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use > > this email address, as it > > >is my > > >work email. > > > > > >Rather than email me if you do have any questions > > please give me a call (I > > >can > > >always call you back to save your phone bill) on > > 07976 216135. > > > > > >WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for > > next years' events. Do not > > >do > > >anything drastic like book days off work for these > > events. > > > > > >1. 05/06 Jan > > >2. 12/13 Jan > > >3. 19/20 Jan > > >4. 26/27 Jan > > >5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers > > >6. 09/10 Feb > > >7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor > > Finals > > >8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers > > >9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals > > >10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals > > >11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals > > >12. 23/24 Mar > > >13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas) > > >14. 06/07 Apr > > >15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I > > >16. 20/21 Apr > > >17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I > > >18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas) > > >19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas) > > >20. 18/19 May Open Tour II > > >21. 25/26 May > > >22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals > > >23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II > > >24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals > > >25. 22/23 Jun Tour III > > >26. 29/30 Jun > > >27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III > > >28. 13/14 Jul > > >29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV > > >30. 27/28 Jul > > >31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas) > > >32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas) > > >33. 17/18 Aug > > >34. 25/26 Aug British Open > > >35. 31/1 Sep > > >36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals > > >37. 14/15 Sep > > >38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals > > >39. 28/29 Sep > > > > > >Thanks everyone, > > > > > >Si Weeks > > >Director of Competitions > > > > > > > > > > > > >**************************************************************** > > >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are > > confidential > > >and intended solely for the use of the > > individual(s) to whom it > > >is addressed. 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