From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 22 16:58:58 2002 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1MGwvC00968 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:58:57 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1MGvhN06118; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:57:43 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g1MGsv0K018675 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:57 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g1MGsvfA018674 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g1MGsu0K018669 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:56 GMT Received: from ovemailhub2.arup.com (ovemailhub2.arup.com [193.116.20.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g1MGstE08829 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:56 GMT Received: from 193.116.20.221 by ovemailhub2.arup.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:57:54 -0000 Received: from mailhub1.uk.arup.com (127.0.0.1) by mailhub1.arup.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00005A1F@mailhub1.arup.com>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:39 +0000 Received: from 69.69.11.29 by mailhub1.uk.arup.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:54:39 -0000 Received: from a_cnts20.arup.com (hub1) by Exchange-gateway-out (4.1/SMI-SVR4) id AA07971; Fri, 22 Feb 02 16:59:06 GMT Received: by a_cnts20.uk.arup.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <F3DMH83G>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:57:02 -0000 Message-Id: <BD00B1D505E9434CA3A856B5FA169E3EABCE54@midnts04> From: Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com> To: "'ben@ravilious.net'" <ben@ravilious.net>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:49:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-cc1d02bd-22c1-47bc-9e97-5a004e923071" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-cc1d02bd-22c1-47bc-9e97-5a004e923071 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1BBC1.F320709A" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BBC1.F320709A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ben, I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little bit patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but we are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30 active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just don't feel like it. I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 biggest/best clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently spoiling the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your point a little bit better. *Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team* Andrew Godber Slipdisc -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net] Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required ...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered and paid any dues. Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team together? Ben UK Ultimate ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk> >We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't let you play for someone else at the nationals if >we don't qualify. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BBC1.F320709A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ben,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am sure that I am not the only person that finds = that comment a little bit patronising and degrading for the frisbee = teams out there that want pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers = (10 people for 2 teams), but we are still going to the tournaments. It = was briefly suggested that we drop out of one, but that was immediately = dismissed because it would be a crap thing to do to the organisers. = There are times when, despite having 20-30 active club members, other = issues (Injury, work, and just other life commitments) take hold, and = our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am sure this has happened to = other teams, and that is why they are keen to get pick-ups, and avoid = missing the tournament altogether. One of the great things about = Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much as = possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they = just don't feel like it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be = an e-mail entirely be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just = want the 5 biggest/best clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, = and forget about the rest of the other competitors? Because obviously = 'us people' are apparently spoiling the sport for the rest of you. I am = entirely in favour of the registration/rostering process, but I think = you could have phrased your point a little bit better.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>*Looking forward to running all weekend in an = iron-man team*</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ben Ravilious [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups = required</FONT> </P> <BR> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>...and 'they' won't let you play in another event = until you've registered and paid any dues.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Why do you people bother entering the nationals if = you can't even get a team together?</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ben </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>UK Ultimate </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>---------- Original Message = ----------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: "Martin Burke" = <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk></FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, = but remember >they won't let you play for someone else at the = nationals if </FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>we don't qualify.</FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BBC1.F320709A-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-cc1d02bd-22c1-47bc-9e97-5a004e923071--