From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 25 10:50:07 2002 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1PAo6C18227 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:50:06 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1PAiCE14789; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:44:12 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g1PAgO0K007917 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:24 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g1PAgOVB007916 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g1PAgN0K007911 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f75.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1PAgME14529 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:42:16 -0800 Received: from 137.222.181.120 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.222.181.120] From: "James Rodgers" <scymetar@hotmail.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Drinking and SOTG at Weston Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:42:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F75kNUTvl7PDqqgNjWO00022326@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2002 10:42:16.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[17BA00A0:01C1BDE9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Bristidisc, Many thanks to Si Weeks for organising the SW indoor qualifiers last weekend. It was a great venue with a superb floor and organised in such a way that everyone got loads of pitch time. As can be expected the quality of the Ultimate at the tournament was great however during the weekend an incident occurred during one of my pool games which I don't believe should be allowed to happen. In brief, the team we were playing, known for being a good team who play well together and are normally very good spirited, had been drinking for most of the afternoon. Now normally I would have no problem with this whatsoever however in this particular case people's judgement had been seriously affected. Playing against them was dangerous for both teams with people falling over each other and into walls and being heavily body checked whilst being marked. The scoreline began to reflect this with no points being scored by the drunk team. Frustration set in and this led to two incidences where drunk team members had to be restrained from starting fights for foul calls made by my team. The calls may or may not have been correct but there was no SOTG or even rational discussion of the call. I am no 'party pooper' but people becoming 'angry drunks' is in no way fun. This is not the sort of ultimate I came along to play. The final score line was 26-0 and the game was both a waste of time and in very bad spirit. In a tournament which involves important games for qualification to the nationals this is not the sort of behaviour I expect. I think that this incident should be made an example of and should not happen again. I'm sure this next comment will provoke response but I think that the penalty for such behaviour in the future should be the banning of teams from certain tournaments. Does anybody have any other comments? James. Mythago _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx