From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 25 22:29:23 2002 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2PMTMR21359 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:29:22 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2PMOtn28061; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:24:55 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2PMMP0K004196 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:25 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g2PMMPVn004195 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:25 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2PMMO0K004190 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:24 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.142]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2PMMNn27749 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:24 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:22:17 -0800 Received: from 130.102.150.78 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [130.102.150.78] From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com> To: wayne@fluiddruids.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: shaftin' and other difficulties Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F142TZa9rEQERYjnvHy00008f6b@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2002 22:22:17.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[85FCFDB0:01C1D44B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >> (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top >> >>flight ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away >> >>from tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and >> >>learn from them, so the rate of learning slows. >Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top >flight' teams and the others. I'm not so keen on that. As a simple solution: you could start each league event with a giant crossover (top of div 1 plays bottom of div 2, 2nd in div 1 plays penultimate in div 2, etc.) This may be tedious for the top teams but it's only 1 game. Apart from giving less experience teams/players a chance to play more experienced people, it also gives scope for a lower seeded team to play a whole event in the top division if they play hard against a better team and win their cross over. If the 'better' teams are really better then the upset winners of the cross over should get relagated at the end of the same tournament, but have a wealth of experience they would otherwise have been deprived. I'm not saying this is what should be, but it's one solution. Jon Good - BAF, Flatball, MBB _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.